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RE: Giving out Scripts. PM me your request. 02-11-2012, 02:06 AM
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So does that mean rootkits are allowed? :3
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RE: Giving out Scripts. PM me your request. 02-11-2012, 03:49 AM
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I find it highly doubtful that you could ever make a rootkit as a script. Rootkits operate usually in ring 0, which is a hardware security level of the x86 processor running in protected mode, which has basically all the rights. Kernel and some drivers run on this level too, because they need to have a full control over everything, so it's basically all compiled code (machine code). The closest you could get is to implement some script interpreter running in ring 0. Or use something that is usually both interpreted as a script and can be compiled into native code, providing low level facilities.
Anyway, regarding Strikethrough offer:
That's nice, but the topic is missing quite important information: What language(s) is/are used to make the scripts? What platforms do you support (especially when it needs to utilize some platform specific stuff)? Can you do Linux Shell scripting (which ones)? Windows Batch scripting? PowerShell? VBScript? Python? Perl? Ruby? Specialized scripting language of some obscure environment? What? There's a lot of scripting and automation languages.
Additionally, what exactly is your idea of impossible? Something technically impossible to do (like, I dunno... making the computer fly. Though... that is technically possible too, you just have to add some special hardware and interface it somehow and then control with a script for example) or something that you're not capable of creating? What is and isn't possible might also depend on chosen environment and scripting language.
Regarding being discreet... well, no offense, but isn't it better to share it publicly? Both what people want and both what you create, that's much bigger contribution to the community than doing it just for a few people privately.
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RE: Giving out Scripts. PM me your request. 02-11-2012, 06:11 AM
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Strikethrough: First, don't quote previous posts, especially longer ones.
Second, would you then explain HOW is it possible to make a rootkit in batch? Maybe user-mode ones, but you certainly can't make a rootkit running in ring 0 in batch, as you need native code there (unless you write some interpreter running in ring 0 first, which is frankly very weird and I doubt it can be considered "writing rootkit in batch"), running at quite a low level, just as the kernel, where it can for example tamper with API and kernel calls. Something like that is entirely impossible.
I'm not sure if discreet can be used in this sense, or rather, I find it a bit confusing what you are actually trying to say by that. Discreet usually means that you're careful not to say anything private, or something that's unobtrusive and such.
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RE: Giving out Scripts. PM me your request. 02-11-2012, 06:49 AM
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Strikethrough: Quoting long posts increases the length necessarily, especially if you add just one sentence after it and worsens the readability. It is customary and proper netiquette to not quote longs posts, so I suggest you follow that to make the forums cleaner for everyone. There's no need to repeat whole post you're replying to when it's just above yours, so please respect the behavior that will make the forums more readable and clean.
Also so you're stating that just because you think it is possible? I don't advise stating anything like that when you don't have any basis to support it. Creating a rootkit in batch is impossible from the very way rootkits and batch works, it might be possible to make limited rootkits (in ring 3) in some scripting languages that provide interfaces and libraries to do so (I don't mean exactly libraries to make rootkits, but rather access to the OS API and being able to exploit it). Still, to do a proper kernel mode rootkit, you NEED compiled language, therefore you can't make it with any scripting language (unless a compiler into native code is written, as well as constructs that allow low level access).
Also, while cautious is synonym of discreet, cautious has also several homonyms, so the cautious you might want is not the one that is a synonym of discreet. I'm just saying though, I'm not native English speaker and it just seemed personally weird to me (didn't know what you exactly meant), so it's just my personal opinion about word usage/mutual understanding. :3
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RE: Giving out Scripts. PM me your request. 02-11-2012, 08:13 AM
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How about a script that will corrupt the hard drive so that the running partition has to be formatted. Or some shit that will completely fuck with windows 7 to the point that the partition will need a re-format.
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