[sinisterlee]

Hey guys. I am having a problem with Amazon.de AVS. I tried like 10 times already in the past few days to order something with all new details and etc, but no luck. I am not getting the 3D secure pop up window and they always request the CIV code. Tried a different VPNs and residential proxies with different countries.  I am trying to order the same item I always order, its price is like 109 euro. I know that 2-3 AVS is kind of normal, but when I start getting like 10+ of them and the same thank you for ordering pop up without the 3D secure I am feeling unlucky. I tried with different VCC , from Zen, Revolut , Wise.

I am asking for your opinion, maybe there is someone who dealt with this in the past or knows what could be the problem.

Maybe there is an issue that you are always ordering the same product, to the same country or their fraud tools/teams are noticing other patterns?
Do you know if zen and wise vccs mask your identity? When the company refunds you, do they see the real account owner?

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If anyone is still interested on how it's going on, so today I tried again with a different VPN. I tried 3 attempts with Wise VCC, and all three times I tried different ways, like using a different browser, and accepting and not accepting Amazon cookies. I had no luck. Also I'm in search for new VCC banks.

do you only do amazon? If not, how is your experience with wise on other sites?

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Still getting AVS for using Wise VCC. I would recommend Monese, but you get only one VCC. On Revolut you get 4 VCC and after using them and deleting you get a 30 day cooldown. There is Zen bank, he gives you 10 VCC, but first ones are free then it's 5 euro/each. But they are kind of strict, if you refund regularly and grab their attention you will get your account suspended, it is a warning and after you promise not to abuse their system again, it will be unlocked. But their VCC recently are not working quite good with Amazon, so you are wasting 5 euro each one.

I see. Thank you for sharing your experience. I'll give revolut a try.
Just, to clarify the "process": you upload your legit ID to revolut and then you create a regular virtual credit card, not a disposable one.

Yeah, everything is as you said.

You use a regular vcc on revolut because disposable cards have low acceptance?
Arent disposable cards destroyed by themself after each use?
Just seen the delete option for disposable cards, thought that they were one time use automatically...