[d4ggm4sk]

Hello all,

I came across this big discord server that claim to have what is so called "100%" guaranteed refund. They also offer a mentorship that is ridiculously funny coming at $1300 usd. What in the actual living ##@$@#!$ would pay that much just to learn something that has been used by others for almost years now, when you can just simply look them up for free...

Here is there following "what they offer" for their services:

https://prnt.sc/1450qkg
https://prnt.sc/1450tup

As you can see they they have a Wayfair Instant method for $650, Apple Refund + Double Dip for $200 with an order limit of $6.5k, a Walmart Instant method for 1k with an order limit of 20k, and finally amazon double dip with an order limit of 6k for the price of $650.

Here is also their list of channels that show their successes:
https://prnt.sc/1451ql9

I want to hear your opinions on what methods do you guys think they are using per store Like I stated above? They seem to have an extremely high success of refunding such stores.

In my opinion for one of the stores like Wayfair, I think they might be using the "DNA" SE method as they have a high success of refunding large furniture's.

i only scummed through your text but. I think M is telling you that you need to trick them you have payed and then press the 'confirmed' button.
I did something similar to this, where I tricked a bitcoin site that I had paid, I was in a discord chat w a team,
so yeah, I basically scammed them on $500+ money. pretty scumbag, but yeah, you get the picture.

[mothered]

I think M is telling you that you need to trick them you have payed and then press the 'confirmed' button.

Not quite.

More to the fact of how they process the refund, which Is Instant and done without (hardly) any form of cross-checking the claim.

[d4ggm4sk]

I think M is telling you that you need to trick them you have payed and then press the 'confirmed' button.

Not quite.

More to the fact of how they process the refund, which Is Instant and done without (hardly) any form of cross-checking the claim.

okay. so.

if I order something from say....... UPS. actually, I have an order from UPS.
if I say something like:

"the delivery failed, I didnt get my shipment."

AND also important; to the reseller i bought it from, and not to the shipment company;

is there a chance that I can get a full refund on my ca$h?? or am I just dumb?
there was just so many complicated terms in your post, so unfortunately I didnt understand what you said in the slightest

[mothered]

okay. so.

if I order something from say....... UPS. actually, I have an order from UPS.
if I say something like:

"the delivery failed, I didnt get my shipment."

AND also important; to the reseller i bought it from, and not to the shipment company;

is there a chance that I can get a full refund on my ca$h?? or am I just dumb?

If you're using the DNA (Did Not Arrive) method, you should only be focusing on claiming that the package was not delivered by the carrier.

SEing Is a step-by-step process, so don't go Into any more detail than what's required at the time of the SE. When they hit you with questions and/or requests, reply accordingly by being brief and straight to the point, yet In a very effective fashion.

[d4ggm4sk]

okay. so.

if I order something from say....... UPS. actually, I have an order from UPS.
if I say something like:

"the delivery failed, I didnt get my shipment."

AND also important; to the reseller i bought it from, and not to the shipment company;

is there a chance that I can get a full refund on my ca$h?? or am I just dumb?

If you're using the DNA (Did Not Arrive) method, you should only be focusing on claiming that the package was not delivered by the carrier.

SEing Is a step-by-step process, so don't go Into any more detail than what's required at the time of the SE. When they hit you with questions and/or requests, reply accordingly by being brief and straight to the point, yet In a very effective fashion.

Thats actually pretty good news for me. We're talking a grand of dollars here for me. Since they already failed to deliver it once, the rest should be easy.

[mothered]

okay. so.

if I order something from say....... UPS. actually, I have an order from UPS.
if I say something like: AND also important; to the reseller i bought it from, and not to the shipment company;

is there a chance that I can get a full refund on my ca$h?? or am I just dumb?

If you're using the DNA (Did Not Arrive) method, you should only be focusing on claiming that the package was not delivered by the carrier.

SEing Is a step-by-step process, so don't go Into any more detail than what's required at the time of the SE. When they hit you with questions and/or requests, reply accordingly by being brief and straight to the point, yet In a very effective fashion.

Thats actually pretty good news for me. We're talking a grand of dollars here for me. Since they already failed to deliver it once, the rest should be easy.

Sounds good.

I'd be Interested In reading the outcome, particularly the level of complexity, If any.

[d4ggm4sk]

If you're using the DNA (Did Not Arrive) method, you should only be focusing on claiming that the package was not delivered by the carrier.

SEing Is a step-by-step process, so don't go Into any more detail than what's required at the time of the SE. When they hit you with questions and/or requests, reply accordingly by being brief and straight to the point, yet In a very effective fashion.

Thats actually pretty good news for me. We're talking a grand of dollars here for me. Since they already failed to deliver it once, the rest should be easy.

Sounds good.

I'd be Interested In reading the outcome, particularly the level of complexity, If any.

I will try to contact them now through our portal
but then cant take up to 24 hours to respond.
As soon as they have confirmed i will reach out to you directly.
However please keep in mind that the package is still within
the expected delivery timeframe and so we cannot log this as lost
until this has been confirmed by UPS.

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This is the latest report. What next?

[mothered]

Thats actually pretty good news for me. We're talking a grand of dollars here for me. Since they already failed to deliver it once, the rest should be easy.

Sounds good.

I'd be Interested In reading the outcome, particularly the level of complexity, If any.

I will try to contact them now through our portal
but then cant take up to 24 hours to respond.
As soon as they have confirmed i will reach out to you directly.
However please keep in mind that the package is still within
the expected delivery timeframe and so we cannot log this as lost
until this has been confirmed by UPS.

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This is the latest report. What next?

As expected, they've opened an Investigation with the carrier, so simply wait for their response.

Your next course of action (If any), will be based on their reply.

[d4ggm4sk]

Sounds good.

I'd be Interested In reading the outcome, particularly the level of complexity, If any.

I will try to contact them now through our portal
but then cant take up to 24 hours to respond.
As soon as they have confirmed i will reach out to you directly.
However please keep in mind that the package is still within
the expected delivery timeframe and so we cannot log this as lost
until this has been confirmed by UPS.

---------------------

This is the latest report. What next?

As expected, they've opened an Investigation with the carrier, so simply wait for their response.

Your next course of action (If any), will be based on their reply.

all right. I'll just think of something sneaky and clever. is this illegal btw? there are like...... laws against eco-crimes and deception, but I guess this aint that bad?

[mothered]

is this illegal btw? there are like...... laws against eco-crimes and deception, but I guess this aint that bad?

As an SE'er, you're deceiving representatives for refunds and replacements that shouldn't be Issued to begin with, so that pretty much says It all.