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RE: URGENT - Amazon reply 4 monts later about a return - Alz007 - 10-02-2022
I just received a new email, I really don't understand what they are talking about... They tell me that the refund for the item I returned is not possible for the moment while the previous email they told me that they would charge me again if I didn't send them the real product. And they tell me that the refund is not possible when it has been done for more than 4 months... I really don't understand. I don't know what to do now. Should I answer? Or not to say anything since they don't talk about debiting me again?
I put you anyway their email below:
"We thank you for your message. We have contacted you to better understand the activity on your account.
Your comments and suggestions will help us improve and provide better services to our customers.
At this time, we are unable to issue refunds for items you returned to Amazon.
To dispute this decision, please reply to this email to get in touch with an account specialist. Our customer service department can only confirm that we sent this message and assist you with technical issues. However, they are not able to reverse this decision or give you any further details on this issue.
If you have any other questions regarding an order or account, please contact our customer service department by clicking on the link below. Customer service will not be able to answer any other questions regarding your order refund ... "
Thank you for your clarification
RE: URGENT - Amazon reply 4 monts later about a return - mothered - 10-03-2022
(10-02-2022, 06:28 PM)db8803 Wrote: I don't think it's a very good idea to use the exact same words you posted here above. Keep in mind they monitor all forums related to such activities.Thousands of claims are assessed each day, and the Internet has a very large social engineering-based community with millions of posts.
Under such circumstances, the chances of pinpointing this thread and Identifying the exact message above pertains to the OP's claim, Is next to zero.
RE: URGENT - Amazon reply 4 monts later about a return - Nabeshin - 10-03-2022
(10-02-2022, 10:20 PM)Alz007 Wrote: I just received a new email, I really don't understand what they are talking about... They tell me that the refund for the item I returned is not possible for the moment while the previous email they told me that they would charge me again if I didn't send them the real product. And they tell me that the refund is not possible when it has been done for more than 4 months... I really don't understand. I don't know what to do now. Should I answer? Or not to say anything since they don't talk about debiting me again?
I put you anyway their email below:
"We thank you for your message. We have contacted you to better understand the activity on your account.
Your comments and suggestions will help us improve and provide better services to our customers.
At this time, we are unable to issue refunds for items you returned to Amazon.
To dispute this decision, please reply to this email to get in touch with an account specialist. Our customer service department can only confirm that we sent this message and assist you with technical issues. However, they are not able to reverse this decision or give you any further details on this issue.
If you have any other questions regarding an order or account, please contact our customer service department by clicking on the link below. Customer service will not be able to answer any other questions regarding your order refund ... "
Thank you for your clarification
Sounds like they're just messing up themselves
In fact, if they "refuse" to refund you, while they already did, voids the whole rebilling thing as they don't even think you got the money
Not sure if you could just try dumping the whole thing and nothing will happen, or if you should press on for more infos
RE: URGENT - Amazon reply 4 monts later about a return - Alz007 - 10-03-2022
(10-03-2022, 01:40 AM)mothered Wrote:(10-02-2022, 06:28 PM)db8803 Wrote: I don't think it's a very good idea to use the exact same words you posted here above. Keep in mind they monitor all forums related to such activities.Thousands of claims are assessed each day, and the Internet has a very large social engineering-based community with millions of posts.
Under such circumstances, the chances of pinpointing this thread and Identifying the exact message above pertains to the OP's claim, Is next to zero.
Okay, thanks for the clarifications
(10-03-2022, 08:54 AM)Nabeshin Wrote:(10-02-2022, 10:20 PM)Alz007 Wrote: I just received a new email, I really don't understand what they are talking about... They tell me that the refund for the item I returned is not possible for the moment while the previous email they told me that they would charge me again if I didn't send them the real product. And they tell me that the refund is not possible when it has been done for more than 4 months... I really don't understand. I don't know what to do now. Should I answer? Or not to say anything since they don't talk about debiting me again?
I put you anyway their email below:
"We thank you for your message. We have contacted you to better understand the activity on your account.
Your comments and suggestions will help us improve and provide better services to our customers.
At this time, we are unable to issue refunds for items you returned to Amazon.
To dispute this decision, please reply to this email to get in touch with an account specialist. Our customer service department can only confirm that we sent this message and assist you with technical issues. However, they are not able to reverse this decision or give you any further details on this issue.
If you have any other questions regarding an order or account, please contact our customer service department by clicking on the link below. Customer service will not be able to answer any other questions regarding your order refund ... "
Thank you for your clarification
Sounds like they're just messing up themselves
In fact, if they "refuse" to refund you, while they already did, voids the whole rebilling thing as they don't even think you got the money
Not sure if you could just try dumping the whole thing and nothing will happen, or if you should press on for more infos
This is also the impression I have but I don't know what to do...
@mothered , what do you think of their weird answer ? And what would you do in my place ?
RE: URGENT - Amazon reply 4 monts later about a return - mothered - 10-03-2022
(10-03-2022, 09:11 AM)Alz007 Wrote: @mothered , what do you think of their weird answer ? And what would you do in my place ?Weird Is an understatement.
Their reply below, Is very poor and quite embarrassing If they believe It justifies their decision. "we are unable to Issue refunds"? It tells you absolutely nothing, so ask them to clearly explain themselves.
Quote:At this time, we are unable to issue refunds for items you returned to Amazon.
RE: URGENT - Amazon reply 4 monts later about a return - Moom2k - 10-03-2022
This is highly unusual to be fair
RE: URGENT - Amazon reply 4 monts later about a return - ahti - 10-03-2022
(10-03-2022, 01:40 AM)mothered Wrote:(10-02-2022, 06:28 PM)db8803 Wrote: I don't think it's a very good idea to use the exact same words you posted here above. Keep in mind they monitor all forums related to such activities.Thousands of claims are assessed each day, and the Internet has a very large social engineering-based community with millions of posts.
Under such circumstances, the chances of pinpointing this thread and Identifying the exact message above pertains to the OP's claim, Is next to zero.
Pinpointing is next to zero, but since this forum is open for public eyes without even registration or logging in, it really doesnt help SE community.
I would recommend making this forum private, letting only logged in people see posts, now all posts are visible to anyone using google.
Thats how methods die
RE: URGENT - Amazon reply 4 monts later about a return - mothered - 10-03-2022
(10-03-2022, 03:08 PM)ahti Wrote: since this forum is open for public eyes without even registration or logging in, it really doesnt help SE community.Neither does It destroy It.
(10-03-2022, 03:08 PM)ahti Wrote: I would recommend making this forum private, letting only logged in people see posts, now all posts are visible to anyone using google.Traditional methods will never die.
Thats how methods die
When crafted and applied to appear as though It's a legit claim by leaving no room for error, It's Impossible for representatives and the like to differentiate between an SE and the real deal. Take It from someone who's been In the scene for 35+ years - the methods that I've personally titled and formulated (to name a few) "the sealed box", "disposed of the faulty Item", "missing Item manufacturer error" are still going strong to date, and will continue to follow the same path.
RE: URGENT - Amazon reply 4 monts later about a return - ahti - 10-03-2022
(10-03-2022, 03:30 PM)mothered Wrote:(10-03-2022, 03:08 PM)ahti Wrote: since this forum is open for public eyes without even registration or logging in, it really doesnt help SE community.Neither does It destroy It.
(10-03-2022, 03:08 PM)ahti Wrote: I would recommend making this forum private, letting only logged in people see posts, now all posts are visible to anyone using google.Traditional methods will never die.
Thats how methods die
When crafted and applied to appear as though It's a legit claim by leaving no room for error, It's Impossible for representatives and the like to differentiate between an SE and the real deal. Take It from someone who's been In the scene for 35+ years - the methods that I've personally titled and formulated (to name a few) "the sealed box", "disposed of the faulty Item", "missing Item manufacturer error" are still going strong to date, and will continue to follow the same path.
And yet again, why is it public to not logged in users? Is there a reason?
And many methods "got patched", and the main reason is anyone is using them for "small profit" and "wrongly".
RE: URGENT - Amazon reply 4 monts later about a return - Bruhmomento1337 - 10-03-2022
(10-02-2022, 10:20 PM)Alz007 Wrote: I just received a new email, I really don't understand what they are talking about... They tell me that the refund for the item I returned is not possible for the moment while the previous email they told me that they would charge me again if I didn't send them the real product. And they tell me that the refund is not possible when it has been done for more than 4 months... I really don't understand. I don't know what to do now. Should I answer? Or not to say anything since they don't talk about debiting me again?
I put you anyway their email below:
"We thank you for your message. We have contacted you to better understand the activity on your account.
Your comments and suggestions will help us improve and provide better services to our customers.
At this time, we are unable to issue refunds for items you returned to Amazon.
To dispute this decision, please reply to this email to get in touch with an account specialist. Our customer service department can only confirm that we sent this message and assist you with technical issues. However, they are not able to reverse this decision or give you any further details on this issue.
If you have any other questions regarding an order or account, please contact our customer service department by clicking on the link below. Customer service will not be able to answer any other questions regarding your order refund ... "
Thank you for your clarification
You can just keep denying and asking them to clarify and that you have no knowledge of this whatsoever