(05-13-2013, 12:48 AM)Unmasked Wrote:

(05-10-2013, 07:10 PM)Der Anarchist Wrote:

(05-10-2013, 08:17 AM)Sinisterkid Wrote:

(05-10-2013, 08:13 AM)Kirito Wrote: Fraud is not allowed here.

Social engineering free products = fraud.
So, technically it's allowed, it's all over this section. Could possibly require a thread name change, but I don't see the difference between this and any "social engineering".

Discussing flaws in a company's replacement/warranty system isn't illegal. Discussing how the flaws can possibly be exploited isn't either. Of course, following any of the methods people discuss here is probably illegal - but it is just information. Now, by the same logic you would assume that it's alright to discuss credit card theft, etc... It isn't.

This is because:

1. Our hosts forbid any discussion of credit card theft, etc...
   
2. It is highly illegal, even more so than following the methods listed here.
   
3. It would transform Sinisterly into a site that I would not wish to run.
   

I value freedom of speech and information, but credit card theft is too far, and I will never allow it.

Now you do understand that credit theft is just considered scamming right? my buddy was in jail for only 3months for draining $3k on a TV from bestbuy, Now if he would have Social Engineered that TV he would be serving for a lot longer as that's insurance fraud which is 15+ years in prison... I have researched these laws in the past, believe me you would much rather want to get caught doing CC fraud then insurance fraud.