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RE: My account closed and the refund wont go through - condariano - 03-06-2023
(03-06-2023, 11:16 AM)Rare Justice Emperor Wrote:(03-06-2023, 10:16 AM)chumchum55 Wrote:i'm in need of the following "variables" in order to be helpful :(03-06-2023, 10:11 AM)mothered Wrote: Forget multi-accounting - there's no mention of It. They've specifically stated the following comment:
You've said that only two attempts have been made on the account, hence their decision to close It Is not justified. Ask them to explain all that.
It could be the size of refund of the last refund and the refund your requesting now.
A lot of factors without know exact info and your MO of how you used the account it could be a lot variables.
1- the money amount that is wasted on the refunded item .
2- account age .
3- was it the same address that is used on the account ? .
4- did you preform the same method in a row even if it was on multiple accounts ? .
5- the time period between the first refund request and the second on the mentioned account .
1. $1785 australian dollars
2. Around one year old
3. Same address as other accounts.
4. First SE failed, so i paid someone else to do it. (successful but still got the email)
5. Approximately 3 weeks, unsure as the account was closed
RE: My account closed and the refund wont go through - Rare Justice Emperor - 03-06-2023
(03-06-2023, 11:19 AM)condariano Wrote:4- "you used the missing item method i suppose , question is " did you preform the same method in a row even if it was on multiple account " ? in another words did you spam the "missing item method" ?(03-06-2023, 11:16 AM)Rare Justice Emperor Wrote:(03-06-2023, 10:16 AM)chumchum55 Wrote: It could be the size of refund of the last refund and the refund your requesting now.i'm in need of the following "variables" in order to be helpful :
A lot of factors without know exact info and your MO of how you used the account it could be a lot variables.
1- the money amount that is wasted on the refunded item .
2- account age .
3- was it the same address that is used on the account ? .
4- did you preform the same method in a row even if it was on multiple accounts ? .
5- the time period between the first refund request and the second on the mentioned account .
1. $1785 australian dollars
2. Around one year old
3. Same address as other accounts.
4. First SE failed, so i paid someone else to do it. (successful but still got the email)
5. Approximately 3 weeks, unsure as the account was closed
would be also helpful if you informed me of the address you entered is it exactly the same address in all of your multiple account's or did you do a little bit of tweeking here and there and by this i mean not letting the same exact address in any of your multiple accounts .
RE: My account closed and the refund wont go through - condariano - 03-06-2023
(03-06-2023, 11:28 AM)Rare Justice Emperor Wrote:(03-06-2023, 11:19 AM)condariano Wrote:4- "you used the missing item method i suppose , question is " did you preform the same method in a row even if it was on multiple account " ? in another words did you spam the "missing item method" ?(03-06-2023, 11:16 AM)Rare Justice Emperor Wrote: i'm in need of the following "variables" in order to be helpful :
1- the money amount that is wasted on the refunded item .
2- account age .
3- was it the same address that is used on the account ? .
4- did you preform the same method in a row even if it was on multiple accounts ? .
5- the time period between the first refund request and the second on the mentioned account .
1. $1785 australian dollars
2. Around one year old
3. Same address as other accounts.
4. First SE failed, so i paid someone else to do it. (successful but still got the email)
5. Approximately 3 weeks, unsure as the account was closed
would be also helpful if you informed me of the address you entered is it exactly the same address in all of your multiple account's or did you do a little bit of tweeking here and there and by this i mean not letting the same exact address in any of your multiple accounts .
yea for all of the previous SE i did i spammed the partial missing method. But most of the accounts i tweaked the address slightly. I changed street to st or str.
RE: My account closed and the refund wont go through - mothered - 03-06-2023
(03-06-2023, 11:09 AM)condariano Wrote: im currently waiting the refund service to reply, ill try to keep u guys updated on what happens.In the meanwhile, and as discussed a few times, be sure to question this:
Quote: We took this action because you continued to consistently request refunds for a large number of your orders
Disregard the methods used, the timing of each one, transactions performed and so forth - they're not part of the equation, hence Immaterial to the Issue at hand. According to what you've said, your account history clearly doesn't demonstrate anything consistent with their decision to close It, thus It's Imperative to request an explanation as to why the account was closed on false grounds.
RE: My account closed and the refund wont go through - chumchum55 - 03-06-2023
(03-06-2023, 11:18 AM)mothered Wrote:(03-06-2023, 10:16 AM)chumchum55 Wrote: It could be the size of refund of the last refund and the refund your requesting now.No It Isn't. Their reply Is self-explanatory, specifically "a large number of your orders".
Quote:request refunds for a large number of your orders
"Large number" = "quantity".
It would be interesting know how many successful orders vs. refunds. @mothered
It would be good metric to gauge what they consider “large amount of orders.”
Amazon is company I always thought that is deceitful and take advantage of everyone from customer side to business side. Just imagine the amount of locks that they place on those using gcs that were brought legitimately. Robbing and fleecing everyday hard working people for their own gain. They use the excuse we are protecting your account.
If 1785$ refund was done on the account. I don’t know if you want to continue using it. Amazon is the best when it comes to linkage.
I don’t know if it’s good idea to return anything to them if your having trouble of getting a refund now.
RE: My account closed and the refund wont go through - Rare Justice Emperor - 03-06-2023
(03-06-2023, 11:35 AM)condariano Wrote:i see , you have to know that upon suspecting an "address" that is may be shared with multiple account's even if you did your little tweeks a "hidden" main profile is created for all the products you've ordered in total with all it's details so no matter how much new account's are created once the system suspects the account is yours automatically your new orders on that new account will be added to the hidden profile , so based on that you receive a mail which indicated the following in your post :(03-06-2023, 11:28 AM)Rare Justice Emperor Wrote:(03-06-2023, 11:19 AM)condariano Wrote: 1. $1785 australian dollars4- "you used the missing item method i suppose , question is " did you preform the same method in a row even if it was on multiple account " ? in another words did you spam the "missing item method" ?
2. Around one year old
3. Same address as other accounts.
4. First SE failed, so i paid someone else to do it. (successful but still got the email)
5. Approximately 3 weeks, unsure as the account was closed
would be also helpful if you informed me of the address you entered is it exactly the same address in all of your multiple account's or did you do a little bit of tweeking here and there and by this i mean not letting the same exact address in any of your multiple accounts .
yea for all of the previous SE i did i spammed the partial missing method. But most of the accounts i tweaked the address slightly. I changed street to st or str.
"you continued to consistently request refunds for a large number of your orders " refers to all the orders you attempted to refund in that registered profile .
"due to missing items" refers to all the time you continuously claim item was missing .
so ofcourse people may see this as a wrong message without knowing what previously was stated while it's very true what you've received on a machine level .
1- you may try to circumvent a little bit by saying this is a wrong closure , there is no way i did what was stated in the message .
"but after some digging from the amazon employee on why did you receive such a wrong message he will simply find out that everything is in the right place and the closure will remain"
2- by receiving the refund approval message with nothing that states that your refund is canceled you may receive your refund but you have to stay adamant with their customer service also try to state or act the following :
"that you are in a total understand by knowing your account is in a closure state duo to a mistake that's made but the refund was "approved" as after investigation you were told that refund is processed so you may see the account closure problem and try to solve it later but after receiving your money back which is again "approved request" since you need it ASAP for a sudden circumstances that's completely out of your hand " .
RE: My account closed and the refund wont go through - condariano - 03-06-2023
(03-06-2023, 12:35 PM)chumchum55 Wrote:(03-06-2023, 11:18 AM)mothered Wrote:(03-06-2023, 10:16 AM)chumchum55 Wrote: It could be the size of refund of the last refund and the refund your requesting now.No It Isn't. Their reply Is self-explanatory, specifically "a large number of your orders".
Quote:request refunds for a large number of your orders
"Large number" = "quantity".
It would be interesting know how many successful orders vs. refunds. @mothered
It would be good metric to gauge what they consider “large amount of orders.”
Amazon is company I always thought that is deceitful and take advantage of everyone from customer side to business side. Just imagine the amount of locks that they place on those using gcs that were brought legitimately. Robbing and fleecing everyday hard working people for their own gain. They use the excuse we are protecting your account.
If 1785$ refund was done on the account. I don’t know if you want to continue using it. Amazon is the best when it comes to linkage.
I don’t know if it’s good idea to return anything to them if your having trouble of getting a refund now.
so like without the 1.8k im kinda broke, so id prefer returning the item and getting a refund but worst case scenario ill pay for the item and keep it.
RE: My account closed and the refund wont go through - Rare Justice Emperor - 03-06-2023
(03-06-2023, 12:39 PM)condariano Wrote:that's exactly what should be done as a last resort .(03-06-2023, 12:35 PM)chumchum55 Wrote:(03-06-2023, 11:18 AM)mothered Wrote: No It Isn't. Their reply Is self-explanatory, specifically "a large number of your orders".
"Large number" = "quantity".
It would be interesting know how many successful orders vs. refunds. @mothered
It would be good metric to gauge what they consider “large amount of orders.”
Amazon is company I always thought that is deceitful and take advantage of everyone from customer side to business side. Just imagine the amount of locks that they place on those using gcs that were brought legitimately. Robbing and fleecing everyday hard working people for their own gain. They use the excuse we are protecting your account.
If 1785$ refund was done on the account. I don’t know if you want to continue using it. Amazon is the best when it comes to linkage.
I don’t know if it’s good idea to return anything to them if your having trouble of getting a refund now.
so like without the 1.8k im kinda broke, so id prefer returning the item and getting a refund .
RE: My account closed and the refund wont go through - chumchum55 - 03-06-2023
(03-06-2023, 12:39 PM)condariano Wrote:Of course exhaust every Avenue but just keep in mind that if they aren’t giving you refund now. Sending back the item is risk. Amazon is notorious of stringing people along. @ Rare Justice Emperor and @mothered both have decent points you should keep in the back of your mind.(03-06-2023, 12:35 PM)chumchum55 Wrote:(03-06-2023, 11:18 AM)mothered Wrote: No It Isn't. Their reply Is self-explanatory, specifically "a large number of your orders".
"Large number" = "quantity".
It would be interesting know how many successful orders vs. refunds. @mothered
It would be good metric to gauge what they consider “large amount of orders.”
Amazon is company I always thought that is deceitful and take advantage of everyone from customer side to business side. Just imagine the amount of locks that they place on those using gcs that were brought legitimately. Robbing and fleecing everyday hard working people for their own gain. They use the excuse we are protecting your account.
If 1785$ refund was done on the account. I don’t know if you want to continue using it. Amazon is the best when it comes to linkage.
I don’t know if it’s good idea to return anything to them if your having trouble of getting a refund now.
so like without the 1.8k im kinda broke, so id prefer returning the item and getting a refund but worst case scenario ill pay for the item and keep it.
RE: My account closed and the refund wont go through - mothered - 03-06-2023
(03-06-2023, 12:35 PM)chumchum55 Wrote: If 1785$ refund was done on the account. I don’t know if you want to continue using it. Amazon is the best when it comes to linkage.The value In this example Is not an Issue.
I don’t know if it’s good idea to return anything to them if your having trouble of getting a refund now.
If It was a legit refund that obviously did not trigger suspicion In any way, shape, or form, the account will be credited with minimal to no disruptions. Treat your SE In the same fashion, and the same will apply.