(12-30-2022, 09:46 AM)Waifuu Wrote: From what I've heard Wayfair is rediculously easy; they've been getting pillaged for some time now.

(12-30-2022, 11:15 AM)mothered Wrote:

(12-30-2022, 09:46 AM)Waifuu Wrote: From what I've heard Wayfair is rediculously easy; they've been getting pillaged for some time now.

Wayfair got hit hard during the times they were vulnerable to Instant refunds, and have since tightened their assessments.

They have a fraud department as well as an Internal legal department, and they also rebill. I'm not saying they cannot be SEd (every company can), but rather the need to take extra care when SEing them Is a must.

(01-08-2023, 11:01 PM)2ndround Wrote:

(12-30-2022, 11:15 AM)mothered Wrote:

(12-30-2022, 09:46 AM)Waifuu Wrote: From what I've heard Wayfair is rediculously easy; they've been getting pillaged for some time now.

Wayfair got hit hard during the times they were vulnerable to Instant refunds, and have since tightened their assessments.

They have a fraud department as well as an Internal legal department, and they also rebill. I'm not saying they cannot be SEd (every company can), but rather the need to take extra care when SEing them Is a must.

DIY/Furniture stores often use their own delivery or smaller companies and some people here seem to think that will affect an SE. I personally don't see how it would. Would think their tracking and monitoring systems are less sophisicated than DHL, DPD Etc.

(01-08-2023, 11:01 PM)2ndround Wrote: DIY/Furniture stores often use their own delivery or smaller companies and some people here seem to think that will affect an SE. I personally don't see how it would. Would think their tracking and monitoring systems are less sophisicated than DHL, DPD Etc.

(12-30-2022, 09:05 AM)KingDead Wrote: During the Wayfair free for all last year I got 2 Lazyboy leather recliners that were $1500 and $1800 each. Also 2 $600 night stands and a huge TV stand prebuilt that was $700. Oh and a grill, and a mattress and probably a few more things i forgot about.

I cooled my address off enough and I just got a $600 Dyson vacuum shipped today. I’m going to go  the damaged item route and possibly use serial number also to see if Dyson will send me a replacement.

I’ll let you know how it goes and if Wayfair is rapable again.

(12-27-2023, 08:29 AM)KingDead Wrote: Now a lot of places Wayfair especially usually want a picture of item damaged  or they won't even let you print a RMA  but that's easy enough to find on google.  And they  are big on replacements instead of refund.

Thats why I have been doing alot  of refunds at Costco. I  don't even bother chatting, I just print out the refund label mail back an empty envelope and a week later I have my refund. And keep every credit card I own locked when not using it  in case of rebill.

Remember only the massive stores have their own return warehouses like Amazon and Walmart. Everyone else ships it to companies that's sole responsibility is to do the checking so right there is a break in the chain of info.  And as long as it says it was received at warehouse and you have been waiting a while just message them and they will refund you.  The envelope is either sitting in the front on a secretaries desk or its at the bottom of a massive bin of boxes they have to go through. It slips through the cracks .

If it does fail absolutely destroy it and return it to the store even if you don't get it free make sure they cant even sell it used.
If you have to return it through mail do the same and even add some bricks in the box to make the shipping they have to pay expensive.
That's also good advice for what your ordering  make it heavy. That's why Wayfair worked for so long. Shipping it and then returning it costs them a fortune.

I don't stress anymore because I always win. So now instead of bringing a brigade of tanks to a fight with a rabbit. I use the path of least resistance rule  so I don't burn myself out. 
Not long ago I waited 2 weeks after an item arrived from Best Buy(who only have a 14 day refund policy) to do a DNA saying I forgot I ordered it with the busy holidays and it worked no problem.

I like getting out and stealing from stores in person too. I get bored of being a one trick pony.  It gets easier every time  you steal and the stores have most their employees concerned about self checkout fraud. and stationed up front so a rear flank attack is easy. 

And they have now reached a point where they have so many cameras (although plenty of those cameras are fake and blind spots still exist) that 1 or 2 guys can't monitor 100 cameras in real time and the store is too cheap to pay more people to do it. 

Plus most employees are too scared to confront you because you could be a psycho and that I am. I carry a expensive and sharp as fuck pocket knife with me, in case I need to open the packaging or if that one employee who isn't even on the bottom rung of the company latter he's not on it at all wants to try and be a hero for the billion dollar company they cares nothing about him and will forget his name the day after I had to kill him.

Fuck lost focus again. This is why I don't respond much anymore. I'm always fighting the urge to write down the endless ideas all swirling in my mind to get everything free.  I've learned so much fixing my truck this year my ultimate goal is to buy  just a husk of a vehicle at a junkyard or from someone for almost nothing and then 1 by 1 order every part I need  the best parts and refund them until the car is drivable.

I've thought about doing that with a log cabin too.  These are kind of ridiculous goals but without them the thought of still mailing back empty envelopes in 5 years for clothes or cologne or electronics that last 1 year because you have to have the new model that just came out is depressing.