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RE: Paypal dispute for heavy item - Msghost - 12-25-2020
(12-23-2020, 03:47 PM)mothered Wrote:(12-23-2020, 11:33 AM)Msghost Wrote: Alright cheers. I will try empty box tomorrow and chargeback if that doesn’t workEmpty box with 12Kg?
Yup
RE: Paypal dispute for heavy item - mothered - 12-25-2020
(12-25-2020, 12:07 AM)Msghost Wrote:Then what do you mean by this?(12-23-2020, 03:47 PM)mothered Wrote:(12-23-2020, 11:33 AM)Msghost Wrote: Alright cheers. I will try empty box tomorrow and chargeback if that doesn’t workEmpty box with 12Kg?
Yup
(12-23-2020, 08:55 AM)Msghost Wrote: Obviously, I can't do the EB/boxing method as the pc is almost 12kg in weight
That aside, given the value of the Item, an Investigation Is almost a certainty. When they cross-check the details (namely the weight) against the carrier's manifest, your SE will fail.
RE: Paypal dispute for heavy item - Msghost - 01-02-2021
(12-25-2020, 03:09 AM)mothered Wrote:(12-25-2020, 12:07 AM)Msghost Wrote:Then what do you mean by this?(12-23-2020, 03:47 PM)mothered Wrote: Empty box with 12Kg?
Yup
(12-23-2020, 08:55 AM)Msghost Wrote: Obviously, I can't do the EB/boxing method as the pc is almost 12kg in weight
That aside, given the value of the Item, an Investigation Is almost a certainty. When they cross-check the details (namely the weight) against the carrier's manifest, your SE will fail.
I’ve already sent them using eb method without any weight in it but it is covered by my courier as they don’t measure weight and also allow receiver to report as received. So of course, I confirm it for them and now waiting for paypal to send me the money back on Monday.
RE: Paypal dispute for heavy item - mothered - 01-02-2021
(01-02-2021, 07:27 AM)Msghost Wrote: it is covered by my courier as they don’t measure weightI doubt that's the case. How do you know they don't take weights & dimensions at their depot for record keeping and cost of freight?
As a matter of Interest, who's the carrier?
(01-02-2021, 07:27 AM)Msghost Wrote: and now waiting for paypal to send me the money back on Monday.Have you received confirmation on this?
RE: Paypal dispute for heavy item - Msghost - 01-02-2021
(01-02-2021, 09:03 AM)mothered Wrote:(01-02-2021, 07:27 AM)Msghost Wrote: it is covered by my courier as they don’t measure weightI doubt that's the case. How do you know they don't take weights & dimensions at their depot for record keeping and cost of freight?
As a matter of Interest, who's the carrier?
(01-02-2021, 07:27 AM)Msghost Wrote: and now waiting for paypal to send me the money back on Monday.Have you received confirmation on this?
The courier is sendle and they supposed to give me the info on the weight and dimensions of the package if I don’t enter the details myself. Although I haven’t received the confirmation from pp yet. I meant that I’m waiting until Monday for them to start working and taking care of my case. That should be the end of it I hope. If not then I’ll just take the L for the new year, return it and amazon refund myself every pc components then.
RE: Paypal dispute for heavy item - Roadman - 01-02-2021
I think you'll be fine with your method.
I hope the seller isn't a small company, is it?
RE: Paypal dispute for heavy item - Msghost - 01-02-2021
(01-02-2021, 12:30 PM)Roadman Wrote: I think you'll be fine with your method.
I hope the seller isn't a small company, is it?
Nah, I would never pull this kinda shit with small businesses. This is Officeworks we’re talking about.
RE: Paypal dispute for heavy item - Roadman - 01-02-2021
(01-02-2021, 12:32 PM)Msghost Wrote:OK I'm glad to hear, not only for moral reasons but also smaller businesses tend to fight back against eb returns on PayPal.(01-02-2021, 12:30 PM)Roadman Wrote: I think you'll be fine with your method.
I hope the seller isn't a small company, is it?
Nah, I would never pull this kinda shit with small businesses. This is Officeworks we’re talking about.
You're claiming the courier doesn't make note of the weight on the tracking page, correct? Because I know some couriers put the weight on it. If the weight isn't there you should most certainly have a successful refund.
RE: Paypal dispute for heavy item - Msghost - 01-02-2021
(01-02-2021, 12:35 PM)Roadman Wrote:(01-02-2021, 12:32 PM)Msghost Wrote:OK I'm glad to hear, not only for moral reasons but also smaller businesses tend to fight back against eb returns on PayPal.(01-02-2021, 12:30 PM)Roadman Wrote: I think you'll be fine with your method.
I hope the seller isn't a small company, is it?
Nah, I would never pull this kinda shit with small businesses. This is Officeworks we’re talking about.
You're claiming the courier doesn't make note of the weight on the tracking page, correct? Because I know some couriers put the weight on it. If the weight isn't there you should most certainly have a successful refund.
The courier uses a presets of weights and size for packaging. They doesn’t update me the info of the package I sent so I assume that they don’t weigh the package upon pick up at all, so hopefully that should be enough for me to win the case.
RE: Paypal dispute for heavy item - mothered - 01-02-2021
(01-02-2021, 11:41 AM)Msghost Wrote: The courier is sendle and they supposed to give me the info on the weight and dimensions of the package if I don’t enter the details myself.Understood.
Do note that packages (Inclusive of pallets, skids, cartons etc) are weighed at their depot's weighing facilities, so If PayPal refers to their records, It will work against your claim.
(01-02-2021, 11:41 AM)Msghost Wrote: Although I haven’t received the confirmation from pp yet. I meant that I’m waiting until Monday for them to start working and taking care of my case. That should be the end of it I hope. If not then I’ll just take the L for the new year, return it and amazon refund myself every pc components then.Now It makes sense.
Appreciate your clarification. Please keep us updated with the latest developments.