[swagaloo]

Hi, just want to say this is a great thread, very informative. Here are my questions:

1. From what I understand, online stores ban users by their IP, home address and cc. IP can be spoofed and a drop can be used instead of the home address, but what about the cc? Couldn't a company contact the issuer and press charges? Is it safer to use prepaid cc/amazon coupons, or do they not work at all/cause suspicion?

2. How exactly would one use a drop? I understand most people opt for abandoned houses, but how would you go about picking up your package? Do you wait near the house at the expected day of delivery and pretend to live there? What if you have to pick up the package from the post office?

[fang306]

When using a drop or vpn should I be using a vcc? Because the billing address of my debit will be my house :/ also when using the DNA method can you put something like leave it in my garage which is open will the shipper say that they were given an instruction to put it somewhere and therefore if it was stolen from that spot it's not their fault or something along those lines?

[M00N66]

There is a deepweb trick I used to use. The address you use should be that of an abandoned house, a house that is currently for sale, etc. I used to partake in credit card shenanigans and that was the best thing to do. Before you get too close, you have the advantage of looking out for a trap. For instance, open a Wifi scanner near the house, any sort of Wifi that is hidden can indicate a camera hidden somewhere, aka gtfo. Or look for a cop car, etc. I'll never forget when I ordered an Electric Guitar with a card from some Onion site, I got close to the house, opened Zanti on my rooted Android, saw an access point that literally said "Net Spy Cam". Nope, turned around and left the package lmao screw that! Also if you pick up the package at night, if you own a Night Vision camera, aim it around, if you see any sort of bright dot near the package that is a honey pot. Thats an Infrared LED on an Offline/Online Spy Cam get out haha.

[DragonicRek]

Hi, just want to say this is a great thread, very informative. Here are my questions:

1. From what I understand, online stores ban users by their IP, home address and cc. IP can be spoofed and a drop can be used instead of the home address, but what about the cc? Couldn't a company contact the issuer and press charges? Is it safer to use prepaid cc/amazon coupons, or do they not work at all/cause suspicion?

2. How exactly would one use a drop? I understand most people opt for abandoned houses, but how would you go about picking up your package? Do you wait near the house at the expected day of delivery and pretend to live there? What if you have to pick up the package from the post office?

To answer your questions
1. You want to use either gift cards or virtual credit cards to bypass the blacklist.
2. Typically, the mailman will still drop off the package. You want to be near the house when the package is dropped so you can go retrieve it. If the package requires signature confirmation, stay outside of the house and pretend to be the owner. I've never had to pick it up, but I assume that you would simply sign for the package and show proof that you are indeed the owner of the package.

When using a drop or vpn should I be using a vcc? Because the billing address of my debit will be my house :/ also when using the DNA method can you put something like leave it in my garage which is open will the shipper say that they were given an instruction to put it somewhere and therefore if it was stolen from that spot it's not their fault or something along those lines?

Yes. Companies will often require you to give them the CC info in case you scam them (so that they can charge the card). If you use a VCC, they will not be able to do that.

[NeedSomeHelp]

Basically i bought a item for 150$ of amazon and i tried refunding it saying i never recieved it they said if i dont get it in 3 days they will give me further steps for the investigation Do i expect a refund?

[DragonicRek]

Basically i bought a item for 150$ of amazon and i tried refunding it saying i never recieved it they said if i dont get it in 3 days they will give me further steps for the investigation Do i expect a refund?

It depends on situation. Post on other thread what happens

[herptyderpt]

im currently in the process of SE'ing portable speakers. I claimed my device is faulty under warranty, which i dont have. once they ask me to ship the package, how do i make it so that it seems lost in transit, so i can get a replacement

[AttackHelicopter]

Hello guys,

So I've been reluctant to use someone else's serial numbers and what not, to acquire a replacement from companies. Now, I don't know how companies deal with people who e-mail them and tell them they have a product that's not working, give them their serial number and etc and then the company tells the customer or owner of the product that the serial number already has been used. The customer or owner gets angry and demands a replacement or a refund, what actions does the company take in that case? The product is already broken, so how come the serial number is being sent in one more time?

What's your take on this, can I get in trouble for using other's serial number? Moreover, I'm also hesitant to use fake receipts since I don't know what actions a company can take for your attempt to defraud them of their device or money with a fake receipt. Would appreciate the help of any answers.

[AttackHelicopter]

Title says it all. If you have any questions about SEing, refunding or social manipulation, please leave a reply.

Don't ask oblivious questions such as "how do I SE Starbucks" or "is steelseries still possible" as they obviously are.

Got an idea from a different member.

Copscalled.

In terms of monetary value, what's the most you've SE'd in one go?

In terms of SE around 7000$, I’ve refunded 2000$ via amazon. The 7000$ SE was with plane tickets, and the refund was with a fireplace.

On another note beside my last post, I'm interested in how you did to SE a plane ticket? Is there any public methods out there for this? Is it a generic excuse or something special?

[DragonicRek]

In terms of monetary value, what's the most you've SE'd in one go?

In terms of SE around 7000$, I’ve refunded 2000$ via amazon. The 7000$ SE was with plane tickets, and the refund was with a fireplace.

On another note beside my last post, I'm interested in how you did to SE a plane ticket? Is there any public methods out there for this? Is it a generic excuse or something special?

Most def not public.
SE'ing in it's purest sense is not saying certain lines to get free products. It's to be smart and to understand human behavior. Also, if it was public, the method would be highly saturated. Either something special like a creative layout.