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The damaged package method #1
Hello everyone,
I would like to know the specifics of the method in question, I have of course read mothered's blog, but I don't totally understand the method 100%.

-Does this method work on all types of items and weights? So I can do this method on a pair of shoes at 1kg?

-Does this method work better/less well when the order is delivered in a relay point? I mean, it adds a scan on the tracking, but if the relay point has a camera, does it change the game? Yes, when the shopkeeper scans and gives me the package on the camera image at the same time (I don't know if it updates the tracking at the same time or not), but would it mean that the weight recorded when the item goes from hand to hand would be recorded on a camera and therefore possible refusal of the request?

-I would like to know the success rate of this method for those who have already tried it if possible so don't hesitate!

thanks

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RE: The damaged package method #2
@mothered any suggestions ?

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RE: The damaged package method #3
Quote: if the relay point has a camera, does it change the game?
The key to Its success, Is the fact that photographic evidence of every angle of the package condition cannot be provided at the exact time It was dropped off at your address. Nor can the weight be recorded also at the exact time the package was delivered to your address.

That's what you need to remain firm with when using the method, so disregard everything you've mentioned.
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RE: The damaged package method #4
(03-14-2023, 02:35 PM)mothered Wrote:
Quote: if the relay point has a camera, does it change the game?
The key to Its success, Is the fact that photographic evidence of every angle of the package condition cannot be provided at the exact time It was dropped off at your address. Nor can the weight be recorded also at the exact time the package was delivered to your address.

That's what you need to remain firm with when using the method, so disregard everything you've mentioned.
Okay, I see. So any kind of object (no matter how heavy) can be touched?
It is true that when the relay point scans the package, it is not weighed so it remains irrelevant. But from a camera point of view, the box should not be 100% visible on the cameras. I get it. But then, couldn't the company say that in view of the pictures sent, I should have refused the delivery?

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RE: The damaged package method #5
(03-14-2023, 04:34 PM)Kikibosum Wrote: So any kind of object (no matter how heavy) can be touched?
Correct.

The Item went missing In transit after It was weighed.

(03-14-2023, 04:34 PM)Kikibosum Wrote: It is true that when the relay point scans the package, it is not weighed so it remains irrelevant. But from a camera point of view, the box should not be 100% visible on the cameras. I get it. But then, couldn't the company say that in view of the pictures sent, I should have refused the delivery?
No.

Read my previous post carefully.
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RE: The damaged package method #6
(03-15-2023, 01:12 AM)mothered Wrote:
(03-14-2023, 04:34 PM)Kikibosum Wrote: So any kind of object (no matter how heavy) can be touched?
Correct.

The Item went missing In transit after It was weighed.

(03-14-2023, 04:34 PM)Kikibosum Wrote: It is true that when the relay point scans the package, it is not weighed so it remains irrelevant. But from a camera point of view, the box should not be 100% visible on the cameras. I get it. But then, couldn't the company say that in view of the pictures sent, I should have refused the delivery?
No.

Read my previous post carefully.
Understood. Can you tell me one or two known companies that have worked easily with this method in your experience?

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RE: The damaged package method #7
(03-15-2023, 12:34 PM)Kikibosum Wrote: Understood. Can you tell me one or two known companies that have worked easily with this method in your experience?
My username Is pretty wide-spread over the net, so I'd rather not discuss specifics.

What I can say, Is that the method works with almost every company on any scale. The only downside Is that It can be a lengthy process, namely because of the company's Incapacity to provide evidence as stated In my earlier post. As such, do expect off-topic repeated replies to your requests, as well as being Ignored by reps on every level.
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RE: The damaged package method #8
(03-15-2023, 02:02 PM)mothered Wrote:
(03-15-2023, 12:34 PM)Kikibosum Wrote: Understood. Can you tell me one or two known companies that have worked easily with this method in your experience?
My username Is pretty wide-spread over the net, so I'd rather not discuss specifics.

What I can say, Is that the method works with almost every company on any scale. The only downside Is that It can be a lengthy process, namely because of the company's Incapacity to provide evidence as stated In my earlier post. As such, do expect off-topic repeated replies to your requests, as well as being Ignored by reps on every level.
I see you are right.
It makes me a bit angry, I've dealt with some very reluctant companies (as you know) before and it's a tough job.

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RE: The damaged package method #9
(03-15-2023, 05:23 PM)Kikibosum Wrote:
(03-15-2023, 02:02 PM)mothered Wrote:
(03-15-2023, 12:34 PM)Kikibosum Wrote: Understood. Can you tell me one or two known companies that have worked easily with this method in your experience?
My username Is pretty wide-spread over the net, so I'd rather not discuss specifics.

What I can say, Is that the method works with almost every company on any scale. The only downside Is that It can be a lengthy process, namely because of the company's Incapacity to provide evidence as stated In my earlier post. As such, do expect off-topic repeated replies to your requests, as well as being Ignored by reps on every level.
I see you are right.
It makes me a bit angry, I've dealt with some very reluctant companies (as you know) before and it's a tough job.
Agreed.

It can be very tough and frustrating, which Is a common reason why SE'ers don't pursue their SE any further. Social engineering requires a lot of patience, adamancy and perseverance. If SE'ers don't have those attributes, they may as well find something else to do.
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RE: The damaged package method #10
(03-16-2023, 01:49 AM)mothered Wrote:
(03-15-2023, 05:23 PM)Kikibosum Wrote:
(03-15-2023, 02:02 PM)mothered Wrote: My username Is pretty wide-spread over the net, so I'd rather not discuss specifics.

What I can say, Is that the method works with almost every company on any scale. The only downside Is that It can be a lengthy process, namely because of the company's Incapacity to provide evidence as stated In my earlier post. As such, do expect off-topic repeated replies to your requests, as well as being Ignored by reps on every level.
I see you are right.
It makes me a bit angry, I've dealt with some very reluctant companies (as you know) before and it's a tough job.
Agreed.

It can be very tough and frustrating, which Is a common reason why SE'ers don't pursue their SE any further. Social engineering requires a lot of patience, adamancy and perseverance. If SE'ers don't have those attributes, they may as well find something else to do.
That is soo true man. I'm going through a tough se right now, and they are trying my last nerve lol. But yeah, this scene requires mental fortitude.
Got too many methods, I don't know which one to use today.

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