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Successful 4K $ DNA (with OFM) - Sony camera + Lens #1
Received my Sony A7 IV + an expensive lens today in one package.
On Amazon it said a signature would be required.
However UPS just handed me over the package without anything.
His „proof of delivery photo“ was a picture of the ground near his car.

Guys, is this perfect for DNA or am I missing something @mothered ?
Shipping was from UK to Germany btw.
(This post was last modified: 06-17-2023, 02:12 PM by JoeBarbaro.)

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RE: DNA Sony A7 IV + Lens for 4.000£ #2
Amazon never actually asks for signature on release despite saying that on checkout. at least is US/CA.

This is a 4k order, nothing is prime for DNA here, .A PR will be required for DNA/EB. How is your account any other issues or a prior flag?

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RE: DNA Sony A7 IV + Lens for 4.000£ #3
(05-25-2023, 02:03 PM)cookz028lulz Wrote: Amazon never actually asks for signature on release despite saying that on checkout. at least is US/CA.
This is a 4k order, nothing is prime for DNA here, .A PR will be required for DNA/EB. How is your account any other issues or a prior flag?

Last refund was 2.000€ last year in October. Since then I had about 30 orders

My acc is 8 years old with 50-100 orders/year
(This post was last modified: 05-25-2023, 02:31 PM by JoeBarbaro.)

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RE: DNA Sony A7 IV + Lens for 4.000£ #4
(05-25-2023, 02:29 PM)JoeBarbaro Wrote:
(05-25-2023, 02:03 PM)cookz028lulz Wrote: Amazon never actually asks for signature on release despite saying that on checkout. at least is US/CA.
This is a 4k order, nothing is prime for DNA here, .A PR will be required for DNA/EB. How is your account any other issues or a prior flag?

Last refund was 2.000€ last year in October. Since then I had about 30 orders

My acc is 8 years old with 50-100 orders/year

is that your only other issue on the account ever? it is going to trigger OFM email and a flag if that was DNA/EB also. That's two large refund for orders not fulfilled in less than a year.

Your account is good but I have had and seen stronger accounts account closed. Make sure you don't have any other related account that also had" refunds". Could end up getting both accounts closed.
(This post was last modified: 05-25-2023, 04:27 PM by Wreck_C.)

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RE: DNA Sony A7 IV + Lens for 4.000£ #5
(05-25-2023, 03:45 PM)cookz028lulz Wrote:
(05-25-2023, 02:29 PM)JoeBarbaro Wrote:
(05-25-2023, 02:03 PM)cookz028lulz Wrote: Amazon never actually asks for signature on release despite saying that on checkout. at least is US/CA.
This is a 4k order, nothing is prime for DNA here, .A PR will be required for DNA/EB. How is your account any other issues or a prior flag?

Last refund was 2.000€ last year in October. Since then I had about 30 orders

My acc is 8 years old with 50-100 orders/year

is that your only other issue on the account ever? it is going to trigger OFM email and a flag if that was DNA/EB also.  That's two large refund for orders not fulfilled in less than a year.

Your account is good but I have had and seen stronger accounts account closed. Make sure you don't have any other related account that also had" refunds". Could end up getting both accounts closed.

Method used before was EB and Boxing method. Both on Apple Watch Ultra (Double Dip)

So what are my other options? I know a refunder „unknownluna“ who does instant refunds for Amazon.co.uk at the moment where it states that no OFM gets triggered.
Would you suggest doing that instead?

Btw, I JUST made a new legit order of over 1.000€ on my amz acc. Maybe that will help?
(This post was last modified: 05-25-2023, 03:54 PM by JoeBarbaro.)

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RE: DNA Sony A7 IV + Lens for 4.000£ #6
(05-25-2023, 03:53 PM)JoeBarbaro Wrote:
(05-25-2023, 03:45 PM)cookz028lulz Wrote:
(05-25-2023, 02:29 PM)JoeBarbaro Wrote: Last refund was 2.000€ last year in October. Since then I had about 30 orders

My acc is 8 years old with 50-100 orders/year

is that your only other issue on the account ever? it is going to trigger OFM email and a flag if that was DNA/EB also.  That's two large refund for orders not fulfilled in less than a year.

Your account is good but I have had and seen stronger accounts account closed. Make sure you don't have any other related account that also had" refunds". Could end up getting both accounts closed.

Method used before was EB and Boxing method. Both on Apple Watch Ultra (Double Dip)

So what are my other options? I know a refunder „unknownluna“ who does instant refunds for Amazon.co.uk at the moment where it states that no OFM gets triggered.
Would you suggest doing that instead?

Btw, I JUST made a new legit order of over 1.000€ on my amz acc. Maybe that will help?

I know they don't typically provide labels for expensive items anymore but if they did for this I would FTID or LIT (if u can do that). You can then use your good customer status to complain to exec relations if warehouse refuse the refund.

Some were able to get away with dna once in 6 months years ago on (cheaper items) but Amz a lot less lenient now.. If this is the only account you use, you can try DNA but them not asking for signature is not going to increase the success. They will likely ask for police report. I'll warn that it is tough to make new accounts with that same address and keep long term once a previous account been closed now.

I am not sure there is an instant method for Amz even if he did a return method they make you wait 30 days. but both my old refund groups been banned so i haven't kept up as much.

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RE: DNA Sony A7 IV + Lens for 4.000£ #7
I recommend wrong item received method.

Also to see if the above user is correct or not, please tell me what options you have when requesting a return label.

That extra €1000 order will help but only to a certain extent. I had an account with £10,000 spent legitimately in one year and amazon gave me trouble, yet i hear successful stories of high value refunds on fairly new accounts.
(This post was last modified: 05-25-2023, 06:52 PM by Roadman.)

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RE: DNA Sony A7 IV + Lens for 4.000£ #8
(05-25-2023, 06:49 PM)Roadman Wrote: I recommend wrong item received method.

Also to see if the above user is correct or not, please tell me what options you have when requesting a return label.

That extra €1000 order will help but only to a certain extent. I had an account with £10,000 spent legitimately in one year and amazon gave me trouble, yet i hear successful stories of high value refunds on fairly new accounts.

Wrong item is not possible because this order was made on .co.uk and delivered to Germany. That means my Wrong item had to be from .co.uk as well.

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RE: DNA Sony A7 IV + Lens for 4.000£ #9
(05-25-2023, 01:40 PM)JoeBarbaro Wrote: However UPS just handed me over the package without anything.
Ideal to DNA It.

(05-25-2023, 01:40 PM)JoeBarbaro Wrote: On Amazon it said a signature would be required.
The driver neglected to follow delivery Instructions, hence you'll use this to your advantage.

(05-25-2023, 01:40 PM)JoeBarbaro Wrote: His „proof of delivery photo“ was a picture of the ground near his car.
Useless.
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RE: DNA Sony A7 IV + Lens for 4.000£ #10
(05-26-2023, 10:22 AM)mothered Wrote:
(05-25-2023, 01:40 PM)JoeBarbaro Wrote: However UPS just handed me over the package without anything.
Ideal to DNA It.

(05-25-2023, 01:40 PM)JoeBarbaro Wrote: On Amazon it said a signature would be required.
The driver neglected to follow delivery Instructions, hence you'll use this to your advantage.

(05-25-2023, 01:40 PM)JoeBarbaro Wrote: His „proof of delivery photo“ was a picture of the ground near his car.
Useless.

Thank you for your simple and prompt reply, I will contact amz sup in the evening when they don't give a shit and want their weekend.

Keeping you guys updated!

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