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Hi, I've recently read a lot of posts on @mothered site and I'm really enjoying it. I learned a lot but still have a few questions that bother me, so I hope you guys will help me find right answers.

1. Even tho I'm not planning to use dna method often I wonder what if I order let's say 2 products from different companies and in both cases reps will want PR? In my city there's only one police station so is it not be suspicious that both packages didn't arrive f.e. in 1 week to the same guy?
2. I really like @mothered empty box method especially under 25g but I wonder do you mean fe only apple watch 3 is missing or the box including watch is missing I mean is it more believable? What about 7 series which weight about 48g is it still safe?
3. In getting different item method instead on buying cheap item with different account, address etc. can I just buy this item in local (same) store? I have this store called mediaexpert and I think it'll be good with this method wdyt?
4. Is it ok to order items (not dna method) to pickup stores or parcel lockers? In my country there is basically no so called dead drops.
5. Is it ok to order lets say from amazon.de to Poland straight to my address, no reship but with the same account?
6. Do you possibly know if zalando, amazon or rtv agd shops have cctv cameras?
7. I tried eb method around 2 years ago (way less knlowladge than now hah) on amazon.pl with aipords. I claimed that box with headphones was missing and rep chcecked weight with carrier and said it couldnt be missing and instructed me to file PR. I was afraid so and I ducked, later on I successfully return it and got my money back but still I didnt get refund. Now I'm trying to learn more so do you think about this situation? I think it could be that this account was brand new I had 0 previous order and it has less than few days, I didn't even browse or add things to cart hahah
8. So last question is complementary to previous one what is the best method to age account and how long should it take? Does searching and adding to cart for a week is enough or do you really need at least one order before?

I'm looking to make my first refund (around 350$) next week is there any advice that you could give me? Maybe recommend a store (I'm from Poland). I'll be very glad if you could spend few minutes and help me out. Thanks

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RE: SE questions #2
Moved from Monetizing to Social Engineering.

Quote:1. Even tho I'm not planning to use dna method often I wonder what if I order let's say 2 products from different companies and in both cases reps will want PR? In my city there's only one police station so is it not be suspicious that both packages didn't arrive f.e. in 1 week to the same guy?
Police databases are linked, so avoid multiple PRs In close timing.

Quote:2. I really like @mothered empty box method especially under 25g but I wonder do you mean fe only apple watch 3 is missing or the box including watch is missing I mean is it more believable?
Only the watch.
Quote:What about 7 series which weight about 48g is it still safe?
The case weight Is 39 grams, so It's fine.

Quote:3. In getting different item method instead on buying cheap item with different account, address etc. can I just buy this item in local (same) store? I have this store called mediaexpert and I think it'll be good with this method wdyt?
The company you're SEing will scan the return, and see It's not part of their Inventory.

Always purchase the wrong Item from the same company being SEd.

Quote:4. Is it ok to order items (not dna method) to pickup stores or parcel lockers? In my country there is basically no so called dead drops.
Yes.

You'll be purely SEing the goods In the package, hence the delivery/collection point Is Irrelevant.

Quote:5. Is it ok to order lets say from amazon.de to Poland straight to my address, no reship but with the same account?
It depends on the method you're Intending to use, particularly If the shipment Is opened and checked by customs.

Quote:6. Do you possibly know if zalando, amazon or rtv agd shops have cctv cameras?
Not Zalando nor Amazon.
Quote:rtv agd shops
Which shop/store are you referring to?

Quote:7. I tried eb method around 2 years ago (way less knlowladge than now hah) on amazon.pl with aipords. I claimed that box with headphones was missing and rep chcecked weight with carrier and said it couldnt be missing and instructed me to file PR. I was afraid so and I ducked, later on I successfully return it and got my money back but still I didnt get refund. Now I'm trying to learn more so do you think about this situation?
A PR Is only needed for administration purposes, so go ahead and file It on request.

Quote:what is the best method to age account and how long should it take?
There are no hard and fast rules.

Upon creating the account, perform a few legit purchases, avoid refunds & chargebacks and allow It to mature for a few months.

Quote:I'm looking to make my first refund (around 350$) next week is there any advice that you could give me?
What's the Item?
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RE: SE questions #3
Thank you for your answers.

Quote:The company you're SEing will scan the return, and see It's not part of their Inventory.

Always purchase the wrong Item from the same company being SEd.

I mean this mediaexpert store in my country have online and stationary store. So I will be buying from same company. Let's say I'll buy cheap item in person and then swap it with item bought online for refunding purpose(same store).

Quote:It depends on the method you're Intending to use, particularly If the shipment Is opened and checked by customs.

F.e. different item recived or missing item. Is it gonna cause problems on the border?

Quote:Which shop/store are you referring to?

In Poland the biggest ones are: mediaexpert.pl, m.euro.com.pl, mediamarkt.pl, neonet.pl
In few of these stores I have like 2 years old accounts where I bought ps4 or airpods for myself so thats a plus.

Quote:What's the Item?

First, I'd like to try zalando.pl with gucci glasses(unfortunately can't find weight but probably around 35g) or try some of these rtv agd stores I mention above with airpods pro or some apple watch. On my amazon account I must submit one or two legit orders first.

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RE: SE questions #4
(06-04-2022, 10:56 AM)Miki100 Wrote: I mean this mediaexpert store in my country have online and stationary store. So I will be buying from same company. Let's say I'll buy cheap item in person and then swap it with item bought online for refunding purpose(same store).
Under those circumstances (the same online and In-store), It's fine.

(06-04-2022, 10:56 AM)Miki100 Wrote: F.e. different item recived or missing item. Is it gonna cause problems on the border?
As said, It depends If customs open and physically check the contents.

If so, It'd be confirmed that the (correct) goods were dispatched and shipped.

(06-04-2022, 10:56 AM)Miki100 Wrote: In Poland the biggest ones are: mediaexpert.pl, m.euro.com.pl, mediamarkt.pl, neonet.pl
In few of these stores I have like 2 years old accounts where I bought ps4 or airpods for myself so thats a plus.
Have legit purchases been made on the accounts?

(06-04-2022, 10:56 AM)Miki100 Wrote: First, I'd like to try zalando.pl with gucci glasses(unfortunately can't find weight but probably around 35g) or try some of these rtv agd stores I mention above with airpods pro or some apple watch. On my amazon account I must submit one or two legit orders first.
Name the Item and company you'd like to begin with, and we'll work from there.
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RE: SE questions #5
Quote:Have legit purchases been made on the accounts?

Yes, both accounts have around 2-3 years. On one I bought ps4 and on second airpods. Both orders were legit. I must check but my parents also may have some good aged accounts that will do.

Quote:Name the Item and company you'd like to begin with, and we'll work from there.

If accounts above are good then I wanna try apple watch or aipods pro. If there are not aged enough I'm sticking with these gucci glasses(zalando unfortunately doesn't have much light high value items).

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RE: SE questions #6
(06-04-2022, 01:07 PM)Miki100 Wrote: both accounts have around 2-3 years. On one I bought ps4 and on second airpods. Both orders were legit. I must check but my parents also may have some good aged accounts that will do.
Your accounts are In good standing.

(06-04-2022, 01:07 PM)Miki100 Wrote: If accounts above are good then I wanna try apple watch or aipods pro.
The EB/missing Item method Is perfectly suited to each of the above Items.
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RE: SE questions #7
Quote:Your accounts are In good standing.
That's great to hear.
Quote:The EB/missing Item method Is perfectly suited to each of the above Items.
Ok, I'm gonna buy apple watch 7 in monday. But is it better if I say that only watch was missing or band, usb c and papers also?

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RE: SE questions #8
(06-04-2022, 05:20 PM)Miki100 Wrote: Ok, I'm gonna buy apple watch 7 in monday. But is it better if I say that only watch was missing or band, usb c and papers also?

I would only say that the watch is missing, everything else (cables, papers) were there.
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RE: SE questions #9
Quote:I would only say that the watch is missing, everything else (cables, papers) were there.
Thanks, will do that. So band/loop, cabels and papers are in the box, only watch missing. Is there a chance that they will want them to be returned? And only after that they will send replacement/refund.

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RE: SE questions #10
(06-04-2022, 08:02 PM)Miki100 Wrote: Is there a chance that they will want them to be returned? And only after that they will send replacement/refund.
I've yet to experience It.
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