(10-26-2018, 07:27 AM)FunkyG Wrote: I see, just don't make a dispute. Since it's a waste of time.
I'll pay you back. You have my word.
It’s actually not a waste of time, but it would be doing a disservice to many if people got so fed up that they snitched and in turn, outed the SE community with their screen shots (all detailing the same patterns). On the other hand, it would also ultimately cause you to have fee reversals (your account will go negative and they will try to take any money back that was transferred - literally take it from your financial institution) and you will lose your PayPal account. They will also prevent you from opening up another one. Multiple disputes, especially of this nature, is a guaranteed ban. I’d tread lightly if I were you. PayPal will come after you if the total amount of reversals adds up to be what they deem to be enough money. I don’t know what that amount is in current times or outside of the US. From personal experience though (ex boyfriend), it took about $3000 USD in reversals for them to pursue legal route to ensure they got their money back. They were relentless. And his situation was NOT theft, it was actually the opposite. He got robbed. But he was still at fault, because he was dumb enough to accept a bunch of money orders that were fake (common scam back then), and he had to take out all of his earnings from PayPal to bring his brick & mortar financial institution back up from the negative. He was dropshipping and spent the money in his account (from fake money orders that initially cleared), and 10 or so days later, the money orders bounced. Long story, but they were smart enough 12-13 years ago to know it was him every time that he tried to make a new account after losing his real one. Didn’t matter if he used fake info. Didn’t matter if it was a different IP. Sometime it took a few months for them to catch it, but every time, he would eventually get banned. If they have it out for you, they stick to it. They also banned me for having affiliation to him, and every one of his family members. Not exaggerating. I have a friend who is experiencing something similar present day (totally different scenario, but his fiancé was just banned because of association to him). I ultimately got a NEW account (wouldn’t give old one back) but only after having been disassociated for years. And I did nothing wrong. My ex really didn’t either. But they considered that theft, regardless of them then being owned by eBay and the actual theft having occurred from buyers ON eBay (completely traceable). We don’t date anymore, but we keep in touch - he works in tech in military intelligence and has access to some high tech gear and he still can’t get around that and make a new account. He remains perma-banned despite that he paid them back the money when they came after him 13 years ago. PayPal is not a lenient company if you tarnish their reputation or hurt their bottom line. They are probably one of the most outrageously stubborn and strict companies out there, where oftentimes their policies and behaviors seem overblown and unfair. They’re excellent if you don’t ever send them a red flag and cause them to investigate you; but otherwise, good luck. They’ll FREEZE funds, too. When my account got banned from association, I had $800+ USD. I never saw that money again. To this day, they have not refunded me... because of association. I fought with them for a long time, then just gave up. The money never left that account (which is likely why they wouldn’t give it back and I had to open a new one). They seemed to think my association to my ex made me guilty as well, and that that entitled them to theft themselves. I believe there was a class action against them because of something of that nature, with holding funds illegally (I missed it). 13 years ago, I learned not to mess with PayPal. They’re no different today, regardless of ownership changing.
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