[EquitableEngineer]

I want to setup multiple amazon accounts for the purpose of refunding. This obviously isn't feasible to do using my own financial details so I am thinking about ageing the accounts using gift vouchers bought with cash. I plan to keep the accounts separate and not associated with each other by using a different VPN server per account and operating each account in a dedicated browser container. I plan to age each account for at least 1 month before attempting any refund and have the legitimate orders sent to amazon lockers.

My question is then, will the fact that these accounts are exclusively using gift vouchers, always connecting via VPN and always delivering to lockers make the chances of any SE activity more likely to fail ? Also what might be the optimal settings for these paramaeters:

age of the account
amount spent on the account
max amount for first refund

I've tried my hand at refunding in the past and had some minor success, a failure knocked my confidence and caused me to put my black hat away but i have dusted it off and donned it once again and im ready to socially engineer myself out financial embarrassment.

[cicciolacarogna]

I follow this discussion with interest. it's my exact plan

[EquitableEngineer]

I follow this discussion with interest. it's my exact plan

I like the idea because it is scalable, the down side though is that you are basically stuck with having to get a replacement rather than a refund as the refund would be stuck on the account as an Amazon gift balance. Ive tried in the past buying both digital and physical gift vouchers for different retailers using the Amazon gift balance on the account and have some success but have also had accounts banned over it. Worst of all in fact was i thought i had successfully bought a gift voucher for a clothing shop using an Amazon balance and took the code to my local store. I spent about an hour trying on clothes and picking things out, went to the till to pay with the gift voucher only to find out that some time between me buying it and walking in to the shop it got flagged and invalidated. So yeah buying gift vouchers with gift vouchers on Amazon is NOT reliable.

This means that you need to sell the item and its replacement to get back your money plus profit which also means it is a bit less profitable than traditional refunding, let me give you an example. In a traditional refund scenario you are refunding an item and then selling the item for profit so if it cost 1000 you get your original1000 back then whatever you sell the item for is profit, lets say you sell it for 800. In the method I am proposing you sell the item twice giving you 1600 total vs 1800 from a traditional refund. That said though i think the fact that it is scalable makes up for this.

[cicciolacarogna]

I follow this discussion with interest. it's my exact plan

I like the idea because it is scalable, the down side though is that you are basically stuck with having to get a replacement rather than a refund as the refund would be stuck on the account as an Amazon gift balance. Ive tried in the past buying both digital and physical gift vouchers for different retailers using the Amazon gift balance on the account and have some success but have also had accounts banned over it. Worst of all in fact was i thought i had successfully bought a gift voucher for a clothing shop using an Amazon balance and took the code to my local store. I spent about an hour trying on clothes and picking things out, went to the till to pay with the gift voucher only to find out that some time between me buying it and walking in to the shop it got flagged and invalidated. So yeah buying gift vouchers with gift vouchers on Amazon is NOT reliable.

This means that you need to sell the item and its replacement to get back your money plus profit which also means it is a bit less profitable than traditional refunding, let me give you an example. In a traditional refund scenario you are refunding an item and then selling the item for profit so if it cost 1000 you get your original1000 back then whatever you sell the item for is profit, lets say you sell it for 800. In the method I am proposing you sell the item twice giving you 1600 total vs 1800 from a traditional refund. That said though i think the fact that it is scalable makes up for this.

completely agree with you.