Quick SE Method To Avoid Signing For A Parcel & Avoid Parcel Being Handed To You.

Nbaplaya20 · 12-11-2021, 10:11 PM

Not sure if this has been mentioned before but it's my first contribution to the community so I hope it at least helps somebody. It is somewhat unique for people that live in buildings that have Door-Entry systems.

METHOD -

This method works best if you live in a block of flats (UK) or apartments where the only way for the courier to gain access to the building is by buzzing your apartment/flat number via the door entry system.
The reason this is important is because when the courier buzzes your apartment to gain access, you will simply buzz them in without saying a word over the phone. The courier, in almost all cases, will walk into the building without any questions and then knock your door to deliver the parcel. However, you will simply not answer the door. You can even have the shower running to give the impression that you are going to collect the parcel after said shower - this is something you can also say over the phone before you buzz them in if you choose to do so.. For example " I'm in the shower, I need to get to work, Can you leave it outside please? Thank you." *hang up*

What I have personally found from doing this method is that often, but not every time, the courier will just leave the parcel on your doorstep as he believes that you are at home and expecting a parcel. He/she trusts that somebody will collect it simply because somebody is at home.

This makes the DNA method a lot more easier to use, especially if the parcel required a signature and was left on the doorstep. You will be surprised at just how often this actually occurs.

If you live in a house instead then you can use the shower method by shouting at the courier to leave it outside as you are in a rush to go to work and don't want to be late. Again, this works a lot more than you think. Have a sense of urgency in your voice and he will usually comply. I know this SE'ing requires more work than usual but, as stated before, it does help to avoid signing and builds a stronger case for a DNA.

CONCLUSION/TLDR -

As many of you are aware couriers are more likely to leave parcels on your doorstep if they are in a rush. By allowing the courier into your building via the door entry system you give the courier a reason to believe that you are at home - thus encouraging him to leave the parcel at your door when you don't answer your main door.

Kwid · 12-12-2021, 01:20 AM

Unfortunate that this wouldn't work with Amazon they'll just come back the next day if you can't give them OTP or Signature but this is quite interesting

Nbaplaya20 · 12-12-2021, 01:25 AM

(12-12-2021, 01:20 AM)Kwid Wrote: Unfortunate that this wouldn't work with Amazon they'll just come back the next day if you can't give them OTP or Signature but this is quite interesting

Yeah sometimes it doesn't work because it honestly depends on the execution on the day and how busy the courier is. The funny thing is that the first time this worked for me was actually with Amazon lol but I see how it could be difficult. No SE is 100%. At least with packages that don't require a signature you can make the DNA easier with this approach.

Kwid · 12-12-2021, 01:30 AM

(12-12-2021, 01:25 AM)Nbaplaya20 Wrote:
(12-12-2021, 01:20 AM)Kwid Wrote: Unfortunate that this wouldn't work with Amazon they'll just come back the next day if you can't give them OTP or Signature but this is quite interesting

Yeah sometimes it doesn't work because it honestly depends on the execution on the day and how busy the courier is. The funny thing is that the first time this worked for me was actually with Amazon lol but I see how it could be difficult. No SE is 100%. At least with packages that don't require a signature you can make the DNA easier with this approach.

Yeah I agree with you that no SE is 100% people here (UK) have been having problems with the OTP so they have resorted to FTID and EB and when they do EB sometimes they get asked for a PR

Nbaplaya20 · 12-12-2021, 01:39 AM

(12-12-2021, 01:30 AM)Kwid Wrote:
(12-12-2021, 01:25 AM)Nbaplaya20 Wrote:
(12-12-2021, 01:20 AM)Kwid Wrote: Unfortunate that this wouldn't work with Amazon they'll just come back the next day if you can't give them OTP or Signature but this is quite interesting

Yeah sometimes it doesn't work because it honestly depends on the execution on the day and how busy the courier is. The funny thing is that the first time this worked for me was actually with Amazon lol but I see how it could be difficult. No SE is 100%. At least with packages that don't require a signature you can make the DNA easier with this approach.
Yeah I agree with you that no SE is 100% people here (UK) have been having problems with the OTP so they have resorted to FTID and EB and when they do EB sometimes they get asked for a PR

Ahh yeah I hear that, I operate in UK weirdly enough lol. I have had a few couriers return the next day but I found that they eventually give up and either leave it at the door or tell you to reschedule a day for delivery. Whenever I have tried this method it has never gone far enough for me to know what happens if you keep refusing to open the door.

How much success have you had with FTID? I have mixed feelings about FTID. I've never used it before but see other people having quite a lot of success with it in this community. I feel more confident about EB and missing items. I've had more success with DNA's and defect refunds tbh but I'm open to try new things in the future. I just need to know how to execute them properly.

Kwid · 12-12-2021, 01:48 AM

(12-12-2021, 01:39 AM)Nbaplaya20 Wrote:
(12-12-2021, 01:30 AM)Kwid Wrote:
(12-12-2021, 01:25 AM)Nbaplaya20 Wrote: Yeah sometimes it doesn't work because it honestly depends on the execution on the day and how busy the courier is. The funny thing is that the first time this worked for me was actually with Amazon lol but I see how it could be difficult. No SE is 100%. At least with packages that don't require a signature you can make the DNA easier with this approach.
Yeah I agree with you that no SE is 100% people here (UK) have been having problems with the OTP so they have resorted to FTID and EB and when they do EB sometimes they get asked for a PR

Ahh yeah I hear that, I operate in UK weirdly enough lol. I have had a few couriers return the next day but I found that they eventually give up and either leave it at the door or tell you to reschedule a day for delivery. Whenever I have tried this method it has never gone far enough for me to know what happens if you keep refusing to open the door.

How much success have you had with FTID? I have mixed feelings about FTID. I've never used it before but see other people having quite a lot of success with it in this community. I feel more confident about EB and missing items. I've had more success with DNA's and defect refunds tbh but I'm open to try new things in the future. I just need to know how to execute them properly.

Personally haven't tried FTID but my friend who I am good friends with now who I met through refunding together he uses FTID a lot on websites like shark which give you a refund on scan and so he does shark FTID a lot and I know a really good boxer who can FTID for a cheap price

Nbaplaya20 · 12-12-2021, 02:02 AM

(12-12-2021, 01:48 AM)Kwid Wrote:
(12-12-2021, 01:39 AM)Nbaplaya20 Wrote:
(12-12-2021, 01:30 AM)Kwid Wrote: Yeah I agree with you that no SE is 100% people here (UK) have been having problems with the OTP so they have resorted to FTID and EB and when they do EB sometimes they get asked for a PR

Ahh yeah I hear that, I operate in UK weirdly enough lol. I have had a few couriers return the next day but I found that they eventually give up and either leave it at the door or tell you to reschedule a day for delivery. Whenever I have tried this method it has never gone far enough for me to know what happens if you keep refusing to open the door.

How much success have you had with FTID? I have mixed feelings about FTID. I've never used it before but see other people having quite a lot of success with it in this community. I feel more confident about EB and missing items. I've had more success with DNA's and defect refunds tbh but I'm open to try new things in the future. I just need to know how to execute them properly.
Personally haven't tried FTID but my friend who I am good friends with now who I met through refunding together he uses FTID a lot on websites like shark which give you a refund on scan and so he does shark FTID a lot and I know a really good boxer who can FTID for a cheap price

Oh yeah? What's shark and what products do they sell? Does this boxer offer their services online?

mothered · 12-12-2021, 02:02 AM

As a general guide, It will work more often than not.

Nbaplaya20 · 12-12-2021, 02:06 AM

(12-12-2021, 02:02 AM)mothered Wrote: As a general guide, It will work more often than not.

Thanks man, I appreciate that.

Kwid · 12-12-2021, 02:12 AM

(12-12-2021, 02:02 AM)Nbaplaya20 Wrote:
(12-12-2021, 01:48 AM)Kwid Wrote:
(12-12-2021, 01:39 AM)Nbaplaya20 Wrote: Ahh yeah I hear that, I operate in UK weirdly enough lol. I have had a few couriers return the next day but I found that they eventually give up and either leave it at the door or tell you to reschedule a day for delivery. Whenever I have tried this method it has never gone far enough for me to know what happens if you keep refusing to open the door.

How much success have you had with FTID? I have mixed feelings about FTID. I've never used it before but see other people having quite a lot of success with it in this community. I feel more confident about EB and missing items. I've had more success with DNA's and defect refunds tbh but I'm open to try new things in the future. I just need to know how to execute them properly.
Personally haven't tried FTID but my friend who I am good friends with now who I met through refunding together he uses FTID a lot on websites like shark which give you a refund on scan and so he does shark FTID a lot and I know a really good boxer who can FTID for a cheap price

Oh yeah? What's shark and what products do they sell? Does this boxer offer their services online?

They sell vacuums and yes his services are offered on telegram if you PM me I can send you the telegram if you would like.