[Crixus92]

@mothered

because I know the person at the pick-up point so it's not a problem to extract the contents of the package without having them scanned as picked up by the buyer.  In addition I would like to know if I should replace the content with the same thing but in fake.  Sealed iphone box with a fake iphone inside

[Kikibosum]

I think I understood him but he is expressing himself badly.
In fact, he tries to make you understand that anyway, he knows the person at the relay point, and can recover the contents of the package, no matter what will be said afterwards.
But I think it makes it easier, you refuse the package, damaged or what have you, your friend or yourself can even box it and claim theft during the return transport. This is a possibility.

[Crixus92]

yes, that's pretty much it.  But when returning, won't the delivery person see that the package is less heavy?  Hence my request if I replace the contents of the package with fake iphone etc.

[Crixus92]

dhl made the delivery for information

[mothered]

I think I understood him but he is expressing himself badly.
In fact, he tries to make you understand that anyway, he knows the person at the relay point, and can recover the contents of the package, no matter what will be said afterwards.
But I think it makes it easier, you refuse the package, damaged or what have you, your friend or yourself can even box it and claim theft during the return transport. This is a possibility.

The point I'm making, Is once the driver delivers the package and you refuse It (for whatever reason It may be), wouldn't he take It with him and mark It as nonreceipt of goods/undelivered consignment?

Given you've refused the delivery, why would he leave It with you?

[Crixus92]

I think I understood him but he is expressing himself badly.
In fact, he tries to make you understand that anyway, he knows the person at the relay point, and can recover the contents of the package, no matter what will be said afterwards.
But I think it makes it easier, you refuse the package, damaged or what have you, your friend or yourself can even box it and claim theft during the return transport. This is a possibility.

The point I'm making, Is once the driver delivers the package and you refuse It (for whatever reason It may be), wouldn't he take It with him and mark It as nonreceipt of goods/undelivered consignment?

Given you've refused the delivery, why would he leave It with you?

You forgot to take a step into account. The package arrived first in the relay point of my friend.

[mothered]

You forgot to take a step into account.  The package arrived first in the relay point of my friend.

Then the delivery wasn't refused was It?

Whatever you decide to do with It, your friend will be accountable for the consignment.

[Crixus92]

@mothered
the delivery has not yet taken place. He will accept the package and I will (officially) refuse it. We can also make believe that I never went to pick it up so after a few days the package will be returned. What does my friend risk?

[mothered]

@mothered
the delivery has not yet taken place. He will accept the package and I will (officially) refuse it. We can also make believe that I never went to pick it up so after a few days the package will be returned. What does my friend risk?

Think about this logically for minute.

If your friend accepts the package, wouldn't he be responsible for It?

[Crixus92]

Yes logically.
Maybe instead of saying I refused it I should just not show up and the package will go back to the shipper. What is the risk? Also, if the package is opened very cleanly, can't we make it look like the incident happened during the return shipment?