[Nbaplaya20]

So if you had to SE a laptop from Amazon what would be your best approach?

• DNA
  
• Sealed box method
  
• Wrong Item received method
  
• Disposed of the faulty Item method
  
• Leaking battery method (battery-compatibility) 
  
• Boxing method
  

Each and every method Is equally effective In my social engineering environment.

A lot of choices there. Nice. How does the disposal of faulty item work?

[duman]

Just a fun a question to see what methods people prefer to use and how they would use them to obtain the amount in the title.

When listing your method, also mention why you believe it would be the most successful for the amount mentioned.

You can be as creative as you like and it doesn't have to be limited to refunds etc.

amazon , 4 tech items such as macbooks / iphones , FTID them , wait 2 weeks , get my £4k back and then sell the 4 items to make an additional 3k , in total you should have 7k and a 3k SE profit

which is more than your ask but again you might need the funds (4k) to order the macbooks and iphones

Sounds good. Lol wish I knew how to do successful FTID’s haha

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Just a fun a question to see what methods people prefer to use
When listing your method, also mention why you believe it would be the most successful

Can't generalize.

Apart from (at times) the DNA, the method Is based on the nature of the Item, as well as the company's operations.

I agree with you, that’s why I said to say why you believe your method would be the most successful (in the scenario that you pick). I know that some people tend to use certain methods for different companies and items from reading threads on this site. I could have written more but I was going to question people’s methods anyway lol.I can see how it could have been taken out of context though.

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Just a fun a question to see what methods people prefer to use and how they would use them to obtain the amount in the title.

When listing your method, also mention why you believe it would be the most successful for the amount mentioned.

You can be as creative as you like and it doesn't have to be limited to refunds etc.

I would buy the 2020 Apple MacBook Air Laptop off of Amazon then I'd get someone to do FTID for me after receiving my refund sell the macbook then repeat till I get more money.

Quite simple I imagine that most of the people who respond will say FTID as it's better for larger orders.

Are Amazon really that incompetent that they will fall for a FTID or are the people doing the FTID’s so competent that Amazon can’t notice the FTID? That is the question lol.

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logitech because it is easy and quick also it does not require me to buy something

How are you circumventing the POD and POP with Logitech. I read that it used to be easier but is more difficult now since they require POD, is this correct?

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Just a fun a question to see what methods people prefer to use and how they would use them to obtain the amount in the title.

When listing your method, also mention why you believe it would be the most successful for the amount mentioned.

You can be as creative as you like and it doesn't have to be limited to refunds etc.

amazon , 4 tech items such as macbooks / iphones , FTID them , wait 2 weeks , get my £4k back and then sell the 4 items to make an additional 3k , in total you should have 7k and a 3k SE profit

which is more than your ask but again you might need the funds (4k) to order the macbooks and iphones

Since items like these tend to have IMEI numbers, what’s your method for dealing with them? For example, some of them can be tracked after purchase etc and in the invent of a successful FTID surely the company will carry out an investigation to determine what happened during transit. After that they could possibly track the “stolen” goods via the IMEI numbers.

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Just a fun a question to see what methods people prefer to use and how they would use them to obtain the amount in the title.

When listing your method, also mention why you believe it would be the most successful for the amount mentioned.

You can be as creative as you like and it doesn't have to be limited to refunds etc.

amazon , 4 tech items such as macbooks / iphones , FTID them , wait 2 weeks , get my £4k back and then sell the 4 items to make an additional 3k , in total you should have 7k and a 3k SE profit

which is more than your ask but again you might need the funds (4k) to order the macbooks and iphones

I also have a question about FTID for items like laptops. I don’t know that much about it so I’m going to read more but how do you bypass the weight of the parcel with FTID? I’ve read that people have sent normal envelopes with flyers in and then sent it with a FTID and gotten a refund for a laptop lol? How is this possible as a flyer weighs dramatically different compared to a laptop? I must be missing something, can anybody explain the FTID process in detail?

they do not require POD at all

[mothered]

How does the disposal of faulty item work?

It's beyond the scope of this post to explain It In detail.

Check out the guide on my blog.

[Nbaplaya20]

amazon , 4 tech items such as macbooks / iphones , FTID them , wait 2 weeks , get my £4k back and then sell the 4 items to make an additional 3k , in total you should have 7k and a 3k SE profit

which is more than your ask but again you might need the funds (4k) to order the macbooks and iphones

Sounds good. Lol wish I knew how to do successful FTID’s haha

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Can't generalize.

Apart from (at times) the DNA, the method Is based on the nature of the Item, as well as the company's operations.

I agree with you, that’s why I said to say why you believe your method would be the most successful (in the scenario that you pick). I know that some people tend to use certain methods for different companies and items from reading threads on this site. I could have written more but I was going to question people’s methods anyway lol.I can see how it could have been taken out of context though.

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I would buy the 2020 Apple MacBook Air Laptop off of Amazon then I'd get someone to do FTID for me after receiving my refund sell the macbook then repeat till I get more money.

Quite simple I imagine that most of the people who respond will say FTID as it's better for larger orders.

Are Amazon really that incompetent that they will fall for a FTID or are the people doing the FTID’s so competent that Amazon can’t notice the FTID? That is the question lol.

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logitech because it is easy and quick also it does not require me to buy something

How are you circumventing the POD and POP with Logitech. I read that it used to be easier but is more difficult now since they require POD, is this correct?

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amazon , 4 tech items such as macbooks / iphones , FTID them , wait 2 weeks , get my £4k back and then sell the 4 items to make an additional 3k , in total you should have 7k and a 3k SE profit

which is more than your ask but again you might need the funds (4k) to order the macbooks and iphones

Since items like these tend to have IMEI numbers, what’s your method for dealing with them? For example, some of them can be tracked after purchase etc and in the invent of a successful FTID surely the company will carry out an investigation to determine what happened during transit. After that they could possibly track the “stolen” goods via the IMEI numbers.

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amazon , 4 tech items such as macbooks / iphones , FTID them , wait 2 weeks , get my £4k back and then sell the 4 items to make an additional 3k , in total you should have 7k and a 3k SE profit

which is more than your ask but again you might need the funds (4k) to order the macbooks and iphones

I also have a question about FTID for items like laptops. I don’t know that much about it so I’m going to read more but how do you bypass the weight of the parcel with FTID? I’ve read that people have sent normal envelopes with flyers in and then sent it with a FTID and gotten a refund for a laptop lol? How is this possible as a flyer weighs dramatically different compared to a laptop? I must be missing something, can anybody explain the FTID process in detail?

they do not require POD at all

That's mad. So why are so many people saying online that they had to find fake videos of POD with logitech. Must be in different regions where they do this because there are definitely cases online where logitech asked for POD.

[mothered]

because there are definitely cases online where logitech asked for POD.

Absolutely.

Logitech have significantly tightened their claims management over the years, so I'm surprised a POD was not required with the other member.

[duman]

Sounds good. Lol wish I knew how to do successful FTID’s haha

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I agree with you, that’s why I said to say why you believe your method would be the most successful (in the scenario that you pick). I know that some people tend to use certain methods for different companies and items from reading threads on this site. I could have written more but I was going to question people’s methods anyway lol.I can see how it could have been taken out of context though.

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Are Amazon really that incompetent that they will fall for a FTID or are the people doing the FTID’s so competent that Amazon can’t notice the FTID? That is the question lol.

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How are you circumventing the POD and POP with Logitech. I read that it used to be easier but is more difficult now since they require POD, is this correct?

---

Since items like these tend to have IMEI numbers, what’s your method for dealing with them? For example, some of them can be tracked after purchase etc and in the invent of a successful FTID surely the company will carry out an investigation to determine what happened during transit. After that they could possibly track the “stolen” goods via the IMEI numbers.

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I also have a question about FTID for items like laptops. I don’t know that much about it so I’m going to read more but how do you bypass the weight of the parcel with FTID? I’ve read that people have sent normal envelopes with flyers in and then sent it with a FTID and gotten a refund for a laptop lol? How is this possible as a flyer weighs dramatically different compared to a laptop? I must be missing something, can anybody explain the FTID process in detail?

they do not require POD at all

That's mad. So why are so many people saying online that they had to find fake videos of POD with logitech. Must be in different regions where they do this because there are definitely cases online where logitech asked for POD.

they ask you to ship it back to them if they suspect you are faking having a device

[mightydamian]

[quote="Nbaplaya20" pid='1060729' dateline='1639580988']
Just a fun a question to see what methods people prefer to use and how they would use them to obtain the amount in the title.

When listing your method, also mention why you believe it would be the most successful for the amount mentioned.

You can be as creative as you like and it doesn't have to be limited to refunds etc.

amazon , 4 tech items such as macbooks / iphones , FTID them , wait 2 weeks , get my £4k back and then sell the 4 items to make an additional 3k , in total you should have 7k and a 3k SE profit

which is more than your ask but again you might need the funds (4k) to order the macbooks and iphones

Sounds good. Lol wish I knew how to do successful FTID’s haha

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Just a fun a question to see what methods people prefer to use
When listing your method, also mention why you believe it would be the most successful

Can't generalize.

Apart from (at times) the DNA, the method Is based on the nature of the Item, as well as the company's operations.

I agree with you, that’s why I said to say why you believe your method would be the most successful (in the scenario that you pick). I know that some people tend to use certain methods for different companies and items from reading threads on this site. I could have written more but I was going to question people’s methods anyway lol.I can see how it could have been taken out of context though.

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Just a fun a question to see what methods people prefer to use and how they would use them to obtain the amount in the title.

When listing your method, also mention why you believe it would be the most successful for the amount mentioned.

You can be as creative as you like and it doesn't have to be limited to refunds etc.

I would buy the 2020 Apple MacBook Air Laptop off of Amazon then I'd get someone to do FTID for me after receiving my refund sell the macbook then repeat till I get more money.

Quite simple I imagine that most of the people who respond will say FTID as it's better for larger orders.

Are Amazon really that incompetent that they will fall for a FTID or are the people doing the FTID’s so competent that Amazon can’t notice the FTID? That is the question lol.

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logitech because it is easy and quick also it does not require me to buy something

How are you circumventing the POD and POP with Logitech. I read that it used to be easier but is more difficult now since they require POD, is this correct?

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The Logitech doesn't ask for POD's for like last 2 years now lmao stop reading outdated guides please guys, POPs are easy to fake, literally pick any small local shop get a pop/fake a pop from them, clean metadata and boom

[mothered]

POPs are easy to fake, literally pick any small local shop get a pop/fake a pop from them, clean metadata and boom

And what happens when they cross-check the order number against the local store's accounts department, thereby establish It was never Invoiced?

And yes, that does tend to take place during an Investigation.

[mightydamian]

POPs are easy to fake, literally pick any small local shop get a pop/fake a pop from them, clean metadata and boom

And what happens when they cross-check the order number against the local store's accounts department, thereby establish It was never Invoiced?

And yes, that does tend to take place during an Investigation.

If they cross check it then they email you "We couldn't validate the proof of purchase and we can not proceed with the claim", just please get some updated guides guys because Proof of Destruction isn't needed for like last 2 years on logitech, they usually ask for a video showing the issue and on the video you have to show paper with a number next to serial number and then the issue, sometimes for picture of serial number and next to it ticket number handwritten on paper, there's whole discord that sells those videos already edited and freshly made.

[mothered]

If they cross check it then they email you "We couldn't validate the proof of purchase and we can not proceed with the claim"

That's what I'm referring to In my previous post - which ultimately renders the fake POP futile.