RE: Having problem with Amazon AVS 09-19-2023, 06:53 PM
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(09-19-2023, 05:14 PM)ruonis55 Wrote:(09-19-2023, 01:09 PM)EdenSlate Wrote:(09-19-2023, 12:37 PM)ruonis55 Wrote: They don't flag phones carriers.Yes, I'd like to think so.
(09-19-2023, 12:37 PM)ruonis55 Wrote: Captcha is because of a low quality IP/VPN.I'm getting captcha across 10 different devices, 10 different simcards.
I'm certain they get a different IP assigned (plane mode on/off), but are all from the same phone carrier...![]()
(09-19-2023, 12:37 PM)ruonis55 Wrote: For example: Amazon checks the billing information of the VCC and you get AVS if it doesn't match with the one given.I've been successfully placing orders from other stores with VCCs, under fake billing addresses.
Do you think these stores just didnt check the billing address, or rather that the VCCs do not carry one? (allowing me to use any)
Amazon has the most secure systems, many other stores don't because they don't invest into them.So it's normal they don't the system for checking if billing information matches or not. I know that such stores as Asos, Bol I think so also checks, if something is wrong they just cancel the order as far as I remember.
(09-19-2023, 03:15 PM)sinisterlee Wrote:(09-19-2023, 07:28 AM)ruonis55 Wrote: I don't think that they have information about me from the payment side, there are rules of EU that don't let them keep or have certain information. I tried to order an item bellow 100 euro that I didn't order for some time, but I got the AVS. I try to make grammatical mistakes in the address and even I get new ones. they were not used previously by me. Yesterday I even tried on a different computer to order, still had the same problem.
Zen and Wise don't mask your identity, they give the same information to Amazon as every other bank.
I am now doing Tommy Hilfiger and Ralph Lauren to just see how it goes with them. Didn't had any experience with them in the past.
I didn't try Revolut disposable cards, don't wanna lose refund or something. Better to use just normal VCC cards, that's it.
They dont mask, meaning the see the real card owner when they make the refund?!
Better to use because of the sucess rate?
Some websites now dont accept rev disposable bins.
Dont try ftid with RL.
What about LIT with RL? I know that should work.
I don't think that just regular Amazon reps see your credit card information, like only the last digits or something like that. Only the Amazon AVS system could see that if your billing info matches or not and etc.
Don't know about LIT but they said that UPS informed them there was an issue with the package, due to the size of packaging the original items could have not been there etc. They also said to avoid such issues in the future a return could only be done if the courier collected it from a home address. They were shipping out of Italy, generally Italians are much more switched on when it comes to scams and they will not refund you in the same way as they do in the UK/US. Do you know what country LIT worked from?
The amazon reps will not see, disposable card numbers from rev start the same and bigger companies especially can detect the bins and might choose to not accept those cards. I wonder what details the finance team sees. The people who create the credit notes.
With another company in the credit note it said the card owner was unknown (vcc). With a regular vcc that is tied to your real identity not sure what they do see.
Do you have any good source for buying revs or other vccs?
(This post was last modified: 09-19-2023, 06:55 PM by sinisterlee.)



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