[Tinytim]

I remember see article for returns. People are in database and if they blacklist from one company, other company use same database company and you can be blacklist there too.

Anyone aware of how it affects social engineers? Use same name because its on address and CC.

[mothered]

I remember see article for returns. People are in database and if they blacklist from one company, other company use same database company and you can be blacklist there too.

Where did you come across this?

[Tinytim]

I remember see article for returns. People are in database and if they blacklist from one company, other company use same database company and you can be blacklist there too.

Where did you come across this?

Here is one article I quick Google

https://www.mic.com/articles/188629/in-s...ity-report

[mothered]

I remember see article for returns. People are in database and if they blacklist from one company, other company use same database company and you can be blacklist there too.

Where did you come across this?

Here is one article I quick Google

https://www.mic.com/articles/188629/in-s...ity-report

Thanks for that. I'm not aware If It applies to all stores (If any), so I'll research It later today.

If It Is the case with every major retailer to the likes of Amazon, Argos, Nike, Zalando, ASOS, Currys etc, all of which are SEd quite often by members on this board, then social engineering companies (with a single blacklisted unrelated account to their name) on that scale would be just about non-existent.

[BetterThings2]

Where did you come across this?

Here is one article I quick Google

https://www.mic.com/articles/188629/in-s...ity-report

Thanks for that. I'm not aware If It applies to all stores (If any), so I'll research It later today.

If It Is the case with every major retailer to the likes of Amazon, Argos, Nike, Zalando, ASOS, Currys etc, all of which are SEd quite often by members on this board, then social engineering companies (with a single blacklisted unrelated account to their name) on that scale would be just about non-existent.

There has got to be more to the story than "I was banned for legit returning chargers" SE'rs have done thousands of dollars worth of returns with real info and have not been banned. Seems like some sensationalism article about "big company watching returns like a hawk" but never the less, it is an interesting read.

[mothered]

There has got to be more to the story than "I was banned for legit returning chargers"  SE'rs have done thousands of dollars worth of returns with real info and have not been banned.  Seems like some sensationalism article about "big company watching returns like a hawk"  but never the less, it is an interesting read.

Precisely.

The other thing they need to take Into account Is being banned on false grounds. For Instance, If a legit return has resulted In the account being banned, does that mean the user will be blacklisted by other companies and can no longer perform online shopping?

[BetterThings2]

There has got to be more to the story than "I was banned for legit returning chargers"  SE'rs have done thousands of dollars worth of returns with real info and have not been banned.  Seems like some sensationalism article about "big company watching returns like a hawk"  but never the less, it is an interesting read.

Precisely.

The other thing they need to take Into account Is being banned on false grounds. For Instance, If a legit return has resulted In the account being banned, does that mean the user will be blacklisted by other companies and can no longer perform online shopping?

I was thinking the same thing in regards to a wrongful ban possibly removing peoples ability to shop online, which to me is a very severe action. Also just because one store may ban someone, it doesn't give other companies the right to ban them, and can potentially open them up for a discrimination lawsuit for the fact that said person can no longer online shop anywhere since one company doesn't like him.

[mothered]

I was thinking the same thing in regards to a wrongful ban possibly removing peoples ability to shop online, which to me is a very severe action.  Also just because one store may ban someone, it doesn't give other companies the right to ban them, and can potentially open them up for a discrimination lawsuit for the fact that said person can no longer online shop anywhere since one company doesn't like him.

Yes, there's certainly a few Inconsistencies and a lot of room for error that must be addressed.

[Tinytim]

There has got to be more to the story than "I was banned for legit returning chargers"  SE'rs have done thousands of dollars worth of returns with real info and have not been banned.  Seems like some sensationalism article about "big company watching returns like a hawk"  but never the less, it is an interesting read.

Precisely.

The other thing they need to take Into account Is being banned on false grounds. For Instance, If a legit return has resulted In the account being banned, does that mean the user will be blacklisted by other companies and can no longer perform online shopping?

I was thinking the same thing in regards to a wrongful ban possibly removing peoples ability to shop online, which to me is a very severe action.  Also just because one store may ban someone, it doesn't give other companies the right to ban them, and can potentially open them up for a discrimination lawsuit for the fact that said person can no longer online shop anywhere since one company doesn't like him.

I read other article same with and it say that refund is up to the store. Even if on receipt they can deny refund or exchange and it won't break law.

Also say it may have different equation for online returns because online return more possible to return than in store.

[Shadow_Hopper]

Precisely.

The other thing they need to take Into account Is being banned on false grounds. For Instance, If a legit return has resulted In the account being banned, does that mean the user will be blacklisted by other companies and can no longer perform online shopping?

I was thinking the same thing in regards to a wrongful ban possibly removing peoples ability to shop online, which to me is a very severe action.  Also just because one store may ban someone, it doesn't give other companies the right to ban them, and can potentially open them up for a discrimination lawsuit for the fact that said person can no longer online shop anywhere since one company doesn't like him.

I read other article same with and it say that refund is up to the store.  Even if on receipt they can deny refund or exchange and it won't break law.

Also say it may have different equation for online returns because online return more possible to return than in store.

I mean it would depend on where you are from and what the law is for each country.

I am from the UK and we have consumer rights laws which allow us to return an unopened unused product within 14days for a full refund/replacement and a faulty product within 30days for a full refund/replacement when bought in store. Online we can even open the product and inspect it (like you would see in a brick and mortar store) and return it within those windows.

Obviously if a store has extended returns they could block you from them or any other store return policy but by law they can not block you completly here.