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RE: Best starter language? #31
@Ex094, hehe :-)

Yes but i will not change colours.
I love colours.
Hehehe :-)

Thank you!
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RE: Best starter language? #32
@Ex094, hehe :-)

Yes but i will not change colours.
I love colours.
Hehehe :-)

Thank you!
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RE: Best starter language? #33
Programming is programming. Pick up any language, it really doesn't matter, because you can do _something_ with _any_ programming language. Just takes a little research, and commitment. Well, it takes a lot of both.

Just realize its going to take a long time to get good, so you gotta love what you do! If you dont love it, then why do it?

Anyhow, check out Lua. Very small but powerful language. Check out Python, powerful and more general purpose because of so many libs.

The goal is to learn _programming_.
You learn programming-languages as a side-effect.
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RE: Best starter language? #34
I started with C, so I think you should begin with it
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RE: Best starter language? #35
(08-17-2013, 04:43 PM)bmchris Wrote: I started with C, so I think you should begin with it
There is few things why C isn't a good option for beginner:

1.Manual memory management.Small mistakes can cause cryptic problems even for good programmers

2.Working with pointers can be very frustrating because of their abstract nature

3.Char Arrays can be pretty stressful when a beginner probably just wants to print strings and maybe sometimes modify them a little.
Frustration is guaranteed when you just want to change the "cat" string to a "dog," and then you need to do it character by character.


C++ is much more pleasant thanks for the strings and better memory management. I'd start with Python or Java

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RE: Best starter language? #36
(08-17-2013, 05:09 PM)Slarek Wrote:
(08-17-2013, 04:43 PM)bmchris Wrote: I started with C, so I think you should begin with it
There is few things why C isn't a good option for beginner:

1.Manual memory management.Small mistakes can cause cryptic problems even for good programmers

2.Working with pointers can be very frustrating because of their abstract nature

3.Char Arrays can be pretty stressful when a beginner probably just wants to print strings and maybe sometimes modify them a little.
Frustration is guaranteed when you just want to change the "cat" string to a "dog," and then you need to do it character by character.


C++ is much more pleasant thanks for the strings and better memory management. I'd start with Python or Java



Agree to the C part, but C++ isnt that bad as a start, because ones you understand a language like C++ then JAVA and others will be much easier.
A good programmer can program in many languages so a good basis is important.

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RE: Best starter language? #37
(08-17-2013, 06:11 PM)mp17 Wrote:
(08-17-2013, 05:09 PM)Slarek Wrote:
(08-17-2013, 04:43 PM)bmchris Wrote: I started with C, so I think you should begin with it
There is few things why C isn't a good option for beginner:

1.Manual memory management.Small mistakes can cause cryptic problems even for good programmers

2.Working with pointers can be very frustrating because of their abstract nature

3.Char Arrays can be pretty stressful when a beginner probably just wants to print strings and maybe sometimes modify them a little.
Frustration is guaranteed when you just want to change the "cat" string to a "dog," and then you need to do it character by character.


C++ is much more pleasant thanks for the strings and better memory management. I'd start with Python or Java



Agree to the C part, but C++ isnt that bad as a start, because ones you understand a language like C++ then JAVA and others will be much easier.
A good programmer can program in many languages so a good basis is important.

Personally i've started programming with c++ but when i started, it gave me a bunch of headaches. As a beginner programmer, disappointing experience from programming will be a hard slap to face. I had few of those when i started and i stopped coding for a while. C++ can be tricky for beginner, but if you can take those letdowns, it's really efficient language.


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RE: Best starter language? #38
(08-17-2013, 06:24 PM)Slarek Wrote:
(08-17-2013, 06:11 PM)mp17 Wrote:
(08-17-2013, 05:09 PM)Slarek Wrote:
(08-17-2013, 04:43 PM)bmchris Wrote: I started with C, so I think you should begin with it
There is few things why C isn't a good option for beginner:

1.Manual memory management.Small mistakes can cause cryptic problems even for good programmers

2.Working with pointers can be very frustrating because of their abstract nature

3.Char Arrays can be pretty stressful when a beginner probably just wants to print strings and maybe sometimes modify them a little.
Frustration is guaranteed when you just want to change the "cat" string to a "dog," and then you need to do it character by character.


C++ is much more pleasant thanks for the strings and better memory management. I'd start with Python or Java



Agree to the C part, but C++ isnt that bad as a start, because ones you understand a language like C++ then JAVA and others will be much easier.
A good programmer can program in many languages so a good basis is important.

Personally i've started programming with c++ but when i started, it gave me a bunch of headaches. As a beginner programmer, frustrating experience from programming will be a hard slap to face. I had few of those when i started and i stopped coding for a while. C++ can be tricky for beginner, but if you can take those letdowns, it's really efficient language.

I fully agree with you mate. I stopped for a while, because of the same reason, but now that I learned it to some point its great. Java was much easier after all that frustration.Not 1 pointer I had to set correctly.

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RE: Best starter language? #39
I would suggest starting with VB.NET, allot of people will say not to as it can teach you bad habits. Although it's a great starting point in my opinion, it's all personal preference and what kind of applications you are planning on developing.

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RE: Best starter language? #40
In my opinion, I would start with programming languages that are heavily documented.

C# and VB are documented very well, but most documentation are geared towards windows programming.

If you plan on doing strictly windows programming, learn c,c++,c#,vb.net

Of course it would be awesome to learn the ones which arent heavily documented and stay obscure.

Why not make yourself a list and stick to it? here is one for example..

1) PYTHON - http://www.activestate.com/activepython
2) C# - http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/kx37x362.aspx
3) PHP - http://php.net
4) HTML5 - http://www.w3schools.com/html/html5_intro.asp
5) Javascript - http://www.w3schools.com/js/default.asp
6) SQL - http://www.w3schools.com/sql/default.asp
7) BASH - http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prog-Intro-HOWTO.html
8) BATCH - http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Windows_Batch_Scripting
9) ObjectiveC - http://tryobjectivec.codeschool.com/leve...allenges/1
10) PERL - http://www.activestate.com/activeperl

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