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Amazon OFM - "We can no longer compensate you for any additional issues" #1
I recently received the dreaded Amazon OFM email. How would I go about making a new account?
can I use the same address but with a typo?
can use a revolut virtual card and just use a fake name for the card?
I saw somewhere people say you need to use a VPN for making the account, but others are living with me and their accounts are fine, so how could they attribute the IP address to me in particular?

TIA

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RE: Amazon OFM - "We can no longer compensate you for any additional issues" #2
Quote:How would I go about making a new account?

Here's a non-exhaustive list, but It will suffice your needs. Apply what's relevant to your environment.
  • Change of full name (family & given name)
  • Change of date of birth (where applicable)
  • Change of full residential address. If need be, use a drop
  • Change of email address (no need to explain this!)
  • Change of phone number (new SIM on a fake account or a Burner service)
  • Navigate via a VPN (NordVPN, IPVanish, ExpressVPN will suffice)
  • Use a different device (one that was NEVER used with previous accounts)
  • Change your MAC address (this free tool does an excellent job).
  • Use a VCC- Virtual Credit Card
  • Use a GC- Gift Card (an alternative to a virtual credit card)
  • Use a different password (nothing similar to the old account)
  • Navigate via a private browser
  • Navigate via a private search engine (prevent your online behavior being tracked)
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RE: Amazon OFM - "We can no longer compensate you for any additional issues" #3
(10-19-2022, 02:00 AM)mothered Wrote:
Quote:How would I go about making a new account?

Here's a non-exhaustive list, but It will suffice your needs. Apply what's relevant to your environment.
  • Change of full name (family & given name)
  • Change of date of birth (where applicable)
  • Change of full residential address. If need be, use a drop
  • Change of email address (no need to explain this!)
  • Change of phone number (new SIM on a fake account or a Burner service)
  • Navigate via a VPN (NordVPN, IPVanish, ExpressVPN will suffice)
  • Use a different device (one that was NEVER used with previous accounts)
  • Change your MAC address (this free tool does an excellent job).
  • Use a VCC- Virtual Credit Card
  • Use a GC- Gift Card (an alternative to a virtual credit card)
  • Use a different password (nothing similar to the old account)
  • Navigate via a private browser
  • Navigate via a private search engine (prevent your online behavior being tracked)
Thanks i appreciate your reply but do you have any guidance specifically pertaining to my questions ?

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RE: Amazon OFM - "We can no longer compensate you for any additional issues" #4
(10-22-2022, 12:47 AM)fyreEU Wrote: do you have any guidance specifically pertaining to my questions ?

Quote:can I use the same address but with a typo?
Already answered.

Quote:can use a revolut virtual card and just use a fake name for the card?
Yes.

Quote:I saw somewhere people say you need to use a VPN for making the account, but others are living with me and their accounts are fine
So far.

Fingers crossed It remains that way when you start hitting your SEs.

Quote:so how could they attribute the IP address to me in particular?
Multi-accounting detection with matching IPs.
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RE: Amazon OFM - "We can no longer compensate you for any additional issues" #5
My accounts instantly get flagged on account creation using expressvpn.

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RE: Amazon OFM - "We can no longer compensate you for any additional issues" #6
(11-13-2022, 10:37 PM)Hallmanhshshsh Wrote: My accounts instantly get flagged on account creation using expressvpn.
Use a VPN that provides static/dedicated IPs, such as NordVPN.
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RE: Amazon OFM - "We can no longer compensate you for any additional issues" #7
@fyreEU, do you still have any questions and concerns?
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RE: Amazon OFM - "We can no longer compensate you for any additional issues" #8
(10-19-2022, 02:00 AM)mothered Wrote:
Quote:How would I go about making a new account?
  • Navigate via a VPN (NordVPN, IPVanish, ExpressVPN will suffice)

This is unfrotunately a bad advice. Prefer to avoid: LTE(mobile phone hotspot), VPN, proxy
Reason: TCP/IP Fingerprint - there's a field called Link.
wireguard/vpn/proxy - shows tunnel/vpn
mobile hotspot - shows tunnel/vpn
connected directly to home router - shows modem/ethernet <-- what you want

You don't want to give wrong impressions...

(10-19-2022, 02:00 AM)mothered Wrote:
Quote:How would I go about making a new account?
  • Navigate via a private browser

Depends what this means, but most of the case you want to use exactly the browser which every other person uses, so you fit into the crowd.

(10-19-2022, 02:00 AM)mothered Wrote:
Quote:How would I go about making a new account?
  • Navigate via a private search engine (prevent your online behavior being tracked)
Same here.
it all started here

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RE: Amazon OFM - "We can no longer compensate you for any additional issues" #9
(01-04-2023, 11:24 AM)dex73r Wrote: This is unfrotunately a bad advice.
No It Isn't.

I'm referring to purely anonymizing your IP address. Other measures can be Implemented with what you've mentioned.

(01-04-2023, 11:24 AM)dex73r Wrote: Depends what this means
^ Self-explanatory.

Here's my non-exhaustive list of anonymity/privacy.

Quote:
  • Change your browser's user agent.
  • Run a VPN alongside the Tor network by Installing the Tor browser (VPN > Tor > Internet)
  • Change your screen resolution with a tool named Multiloginapp (The user agent will NOT do this).
  • Disable all location features and settings- both browser and OS-based.
  • To help prevent your browser leaking your connection (ISP, connection type, Internal & external IP address), disable WebRTC. Although VPNs do prevent such Information from being disclosed, leaks do happen.
  • Some VPNs only handle IPv4 requests, hence (where supported) If an IPv6 request Is made, the VPN will not handle It and result In an IPv6 leak, thereby disclose your location, ISP etc. If supported, disable IPv6 In your router.
  • Going to the extreme, If you're navigating via your cell phone, certain sensors (example, proximity sensor, gyroscope sensor, magnetometer sensor, barometer sensor, ambient light sensor) can reveal PINs, passwords, location, voice searches etc. Disable those you don't need/use.
  • Use a private search engine. I recommend MetaGer- It also has a built-In proxy that allows you to open links anonymously within that proxy. This adds an additional layer of protection to your current setup.
  • Use a secure web browser. I recommend Epic browser. This also has a built-In proxy.
  • Where possible, disable JavaScript. This Is responsible for an array of browser leaks.
  • Encrypt your DNS servers. A tool named Simple DNSCrypt does the job well.

By no means does this cover anonymity In Its entirety, but It will certainly suffice an average user's needs.
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RE: Amazon OFM - "We can no longer compensate you for any additional issues" #10
(01-04-2023, 11:48 AM)mothered Wrote:
(01-04-2023, 11:24 AM)dex73r Wrote: This is unfrotunately a bad advice.
No It Isn't.

I'm referring to purely anonymizing your IP address. Other measures can be Implemented with what you've mentioned.

(01-04-2023, 11:24 AM)dex73r Wrote: Depends what this means
^ Self-explanatory.

Here's my non-exhaustive list of anonymity/privacy.

Quote:
  • Change your browser's user agent.
  • Run a VPN alongside the Tor network by Installing the Tor browser (VPN > Tor > Internet)
  • Change your screen resolution with a tool named Multiloginapp (The user agent will NOT do this).
  • Disable all location features and settings- both browser and OS-based.
  • To help prevent your browser leaking your connection (ISP, connection type, Internal & external IP address), disable WebRTC. Although VPNs do prevent such Information from being disclosed, leaks do happen.
  • Some VPNs only handle IPv4 requests, hence (where supported) If an IPv6 request Is made, the VPN will not handle It and result In an IPv6 leak, thereby disclose your location, ISP etc. If supported, disable IPv6 In your router.
  • Going to the extreme, If you're navigating via your cell phone, certain sensors (example, proximity sensor, gyroscope sensor, magnetometer sensor, barometer sensor, ambient light sensor) can reveal PINs, passwords, location, voice searches etc. Disable those you don't need/use.
  • Use a private search engine. I recommend MetaGer- It also has a built-In proxy that allows you to open links anonymously within that proxy. This adds an additional layer of protection to your current setup.
  • Use a secure web browser. I recommend Epic browser. This also has a built-In proxy.
  • Where possible, disable JavaScript. This Is responsible for an array of browser leaks.
  • Encrypt your DNS servers. A tool named Simple DNSCrypt does the job well.

By no means does this cover anonymity In Its entirety, but It will certainly suffice an average user's needs.

I don't want to sound rude but this is exactly what puts on a redflag on any amazon customer. Just running VPN itself is a bad sign for them, not even talking about Tor.
I would never recommend such actions to anybody who regularly tries to refund on amazon as their "AVS" is very good in preventing redflags.
However, if it works for you, I'm very happy.
Unfortunately, I had to choose to fit into the crowd after getting many OFMs and getting massive fuckups last year, by making it almost impossible to tell that I'm a bad guy as from what I said in my post earlier.
it all started here

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