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9 year old amazon account #1
Hello, I have been getting information about refunding for a couple of months. I‘ll be do my first experience with a company which isn‘t amazon and my initial order is AirPods. If it is going to be delivered without any doorbell ill use dna else I will try empty box and tell opened the box and it was a manufacturer failure, I only found the user manual. The chargebox and the airpods weren‘t in it? Any tips?

But what I really want to do is, ordering an iPhone/iPad/MacBook on Amazon. Most probably going for the dna method will require a Police report, I want to avoid it because I don‘t live alone. So what option would I have to do a successful order? Until now I haven‘t been doing any SE on my 9 yo Amazon account. So what price level and methods would you recommend?
(This post was last modified: 01-01-2022, 10:33 PM by Lemoy. Edit Reason: Corrected )
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RE: 9 year old amazon account #2
(01-01-2022, 10:24 PM)Lemoy Wrote: Hello, I have been getting information about refunding for a couple of months. I‘ll be do my first experience with a company which isn‘t amazon and my initial order is AirPods. If it is going to be delivered without any doorbell ill use dna else I will try empty box and tell opened the box and it was a manufacturer failure, I only found the user manual. The chargebox and the airpods weren‘t in it? Any tips?

Perfect method, considering the weight of the AirPods I'd always go with the EB method, also I wouldn't say that there was a user manual just say there was nothing at all in the box

(01-01-2022, 10:24 PM)Lemoy Wrote: But what I really want to do is, ordering an iPhone/iPad/MacBook on Amazon. Most probably going for the dna method will require a Police report, I want to avoid it because I don‘t live alone. So what option would I have to do a  successful order? Until now I haven‘t been doing any SE on my 9 yo Amazon account. So what price level and methods would you recommend?

Considering you will be doing the EB on a website that isn't amazon your account will be in excellent standing to perform an SE. And it all depends on what item you decide to get, but as your account is old, and presumably has a lot of orders I think the DNA is perfectly suited

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RE: 9 year old amazon account #3
(01-01-2022, 11:37 PM)SirEntity Wrote: Considering you will be doing the EB on a website that isn't amazon your account will be in excellent standing to perform an SE. And it all depends on what item you decide to get, but as your account is old, and presumably has a lot of orders I think the DNA is perfectly suited

At which price level shall I try my first refund?
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RE: 9 year old amazon account #4
Quote:I will try empty box and tell opened the box and it was a manufacturer failure, I only found the user manual
Precisely.

AirPods have a very good success rate with the EB/missing Item method.
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RE: 9 year old amazon account #5
(01-02-2022, 01:40 AM)mothered Wrote:
Quote:I will try empty box and tell opened the box and it was a manufacturer failure, I only found the user manual
Precisely.

AirPods have a very good success rate with the EB/missing Item method.

Nice, let's see how the shop customer service will respond.

So which of the mentioned items (and for which price) should I order first? MacBook/iPad/iPhone. I will most likely sell the item after refunding to get some cash, so what would be the max price limit for a 9 y.o. account with more than 800+ orders? Thanks in advance.
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RE: 9 year old amazon account #6
(01-02-2022, 01:51 AM)Lemoy Wrote: So which of the mentioned items (and for which price) should I order first? MacBook/iPad/iPhone.
If you want to SE the lot In one hit, obviously use the DNA but due to the nature of the method and the total value of the consignment, do expect a lengthy claims process.

For Individual Items, be sure to allow a sufficient gap from one SE to the next.

(01-02-2022, 01:51 AM)Lemoy Wrote: what would be the max price limit for a 9 y.o. account with more than 800+ orders?
Your account Is In very good standing, which helps minimize suspicion.

Claiming Items of very high value attracts attention, so you'd need to play It safe. There are no hard and fast rules, but I'd say not to exceed 3k and that's pushing It to Its limit.
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RE: 9 year old amazon account #7
(01-02-2022, 02:39 AM)mothered Wrote: Your account Is In very good standing, which helps minimize suspicion.

Claiming Items of very high value attracts attention, so you'd need to play It safe. There are no hard and fast rules, but I'd say not to exceed 3k and that's pushing It to Its limit.

Which price level would be guaranteed for me to get it done with DNA? Is it better to order multiple items which would be worth around 2k euros or just one which costs around 2.2k euros?
But I‘d assume they will want to deliver it safely due to the weight. I have got no pattern yet how they‘re delivering, and if they get an info if the articles got more priority.

If I’d get those items delivered safely, what options would I have to get refunds?
Multiple items delivery I should most likely have seperate methods. And the most important thing is, I should be able to undo the story and send them the real items backif it gets serious because I currently don‘t have the money to pay the items around 2k.
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RE: 9 year old amazon account #8
(01-02-2022, 03:17 PM)Lemoy Wrote: Which price level would be guaranteed for me to get it done with DNA?
There's no guarantee with social engineering.

(01-02-2022, 03:17 PM)Lemoy Wrote: Is it better to order multiple items which would be worth around 2k euros or just one which costs around 2.2k euros?
In terms of the DNA, It's much of a muchness.

At the end of the day, you're still SEing a similar value +/- 200$.

(01-02-2022, 03:17 PM)Lemoy Wrote: But I‘d assume they will want to deliver it safely due to the weight.
If you're referring to the DNA, the weight Is Insignificant.

(01-02-2022, 03:17 PM)Lemoy Wrote: If I’d get those items delivered safely, what options would I have to get refunds?
The entire Items, or Individually?
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RE: 9 year old amazon account #9
(01-02-2022, 04:27 PM)mothered Wrote: There's no guarantee with social engineering.
I mean if I would do it with an item around 800 euros easily rather than multiple items or a single one around 2k euros, I‘d prefer to do it and repeat it with a similar value about a month later.

I‘m asking for a 2k value because if I‘d order 2 items at that value for example 2 iPhones, I could keep one for personal use and sell the other one. At the end of the day I just want to have an easy process instead of a complicated one.
(This post was last modified: 01-02-2022, 05:32 PM by Lemoy.)
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RE: 9 year old amazon account #10
(01-02-2022, 05:29 PM)Lemoy Wrote: I mean if I would do it with an item around 800 euros easily rather than multiple items or a single one around 2k euros, I‘d prefer to do it and repeat it with a similar value about a month later.
Low to mid value Items are less likely to attract attention, as opposed to those of high value.
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