RE: Say goodbye to your fourth Amendment rights! [AMERICA] 07-24-2013, 10:26 PM
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(07-23-2013, 04:30 AM)Oni Wrote: It requires us trusting the government. Do you really trust them that much? I don't.
I most certainly do not, and I'd be a little naive if I did. The United States government has lied to its people too many times to retain my trust.
(07-23-2013, 06:09 AM)w00t Wrote: When it comes down to it, you have to trust someone to defend you. If you aren't defending yourself as a "tribe", you'll be attacked by a "tribe".
If you don't want your home to be ransacked, don't do illegal things. If your home is comprehensively searched and there is absolutely no evidence that what the initial officer said was true, you can sue the city for your "damages". If you don't think something should be illegal, start a movement.
My point was more that this ruling doesn't actually add anything new, it's just a reaffirmation of current law.
Tribes? Are you talking about other nations? Protecting us from other nations is the job of the military, not the police, and searching people's homes unconstitutionally does not fall under the pledge to "protect and serve."
It seems like a small change, but it's one that should never have taken place under the Fourth Amendment. Until the ruling, to break into a home and search it, police needed either a warrant or probable cause. Now that smelling something and hearing something, two factors that can be neither confirmed nor denied in a court of law, are sufficient, any hypothetical corrupt police officer with a blood-grudge or conviction can break into my house, destroy my things, and walk away, or if his conviction serves him, plant evidence in my home.
It may be a paranoid fear but it's certainly a possibility, and it's not one that should exist.


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