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Btw is this the same group you told me about?  Still not worth joining?

I must say sometimes there is good info to be extracted - wasn't what i had expected though. To make good use of it one needs to be somewhat experienced since no one in there will step by step guide a whole process. I got in quiet some time ago with 0 experience - ultimately I just took the leap and learned from active SE's without anyone's help. At this point it could be useful to have those guys - i found the guy with wayfair scripts in there who did the 12k order for me afterall - however they don't share newer methods like the instant refund through UPS while the item is in transit - everyone talks about it however the ones that know dont share. I don't remember how much i had paid - i think it was between 150 - 250.

Tbh, just getting a heads up about a company would be beneficial. 150-250 isn't bad in the long run.