RE: Wuhan COVID-19 lab-release theory gains traction 05-29-2021, 02:35 PM
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(05-29-2021, 12:32 PM)vittring Wrote:Actually this growth has been slowed down a lot for the last 50 years (mainly because of the one-child policy, but also because of better education and general reduction of poverty), it should naturally stop in less than 10 years: https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/CH...rowth-rate(05-29-2021, 11:43 AM)Jiggly Wrote: What doesn't make sense to me about the fourth option is why? There's no part of it that makes logical sense to me so far. If it was to reduce human population growth, it hasn't done that. For a start, the disease mostly hurts people who are past the point of reproducing. Young people, the most likely to contribute to population growth are less impacted. As for the number of people who have died.. 0.04% of humanity's current population passed away thus far. It's a drop in the ocean of a population whose growth is still accelerating at an uncontrolled rate. China's one child policy was far more effective at controlling population (China estimates the birth prevention at 400 mil, and western scientists predict approximately 200m).
With the rising growth rate [...]
(05-29-2021, 12:32 PM)vittring Wrote: [...] comes more laws and control and every person born increases the national debt of, for instance, the United States.National debt, really?! Who cares!! That's some brainless politician argument haha.
It's "importance" is always calculated in percent of the GDP, so to reduce it, you certainly shouldn't reduce your population, which would reduce your GPD!

Plus we have to keep in mind that with the eternal rollover, and the insanely low (even negative sometimes !) interest rates, pretty much nobody pays this debt.
(05-29-2021, 12:32 PM)vittring Wrote: Reasons we should immediately lower this scale of growth are:I believe your view of the subject is biased, you're mistaking cause and consequence.
- Less busy planet. The world can't handle that much traffic. Eventually, there will be no more room if we continue on, but it's naturally inevitable.
- No poverty. More people, less resources.
- Minimal politics and state control. Less humans means exactly that.
- A clean environment where there is minimal pollution. No mass human wast.
- No need for television or entertainment for the dumbed down masses ever again.
- All encompassing universal technical education and knowledge. No more dumb people.
- No more war or religion. With less humans, there will not be any need for war or mass control systems like religion.
"Reasons we should immediately lower this scale of growth are", as I was saying, it's already slowing down pretty much everywhere.
"No poverty. More people, less resources.", that's actually by reducing poverty that we have the most effect to slow/stop population growth, not the other way around.
And it seems all the other points you make come from your hat haha, those can seem logical to you but they're far from scientific

(05-29-2021, 12:32 PM)vittring Wrote: It doesn't seem like it at first, but the way the government is currently controlling this growth has largely slowed the rate of decay of our planet's resources. Our earth has a carrying capacity.Well except the few countries who had a one-child policy, they're not controlling much. In Europe for example that's pretty much the opposite, lots of countries have been trying to incentive people to have at least 2 children with government funding programs but that didn't help!
EDIT : But we're going a bit far from the subject now, there's no link with covid in all of that!
As Jiggly well said :
(05-29-2021, 11:43 AM)Jiggly Wrote: What doesn't make sense to me about the fourth option is why? There's no part of it that makes logical sense to me so far. If it was to reduce human population growth, it hasn't done that. For a start, the disease mostly hurts people who are past the point of reproducing. Young people, the most likely to contribute to population growth are less impacted. As for the number of people who have died.. 0.04% of humanity's current population passed away thus far. It's a drop in the ocean of a population whose growth is still accelerating at an uncontrolled rate. China's one child policy was far more effective at controlling population (China estimates the birth prevention at 400 mil, and western scientists predict approximately 200m).
(This post was last modified: 05-29-2021, 02:41 PM by fritz.)



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