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RE: Bleaching shipping labels? #11
(07-24-2020, 12:32 PM)durden666 Wrote: I know that X courier picks up parcels from Y shop at roughly Z time each day. I proceed to drop a parcel at Y shop an hour before the Z time. I have affixed to the parcel a prepaid label that I've just pronted to return my parcel to Amazon.

I know that it will be sent either next day delivery or standard (a few days). 12 hours from Z, the point in time at which my parcel was picked up by X courier, the parcel is in transit still.

As it is probably either very late in the evening, or early hours of the morning, before the parcel would be out for delivery. At this point in time, give or take a few hours, the pre paid shipping returns label that I printed off and affixed to the parcel, happens to loose all ink on it, and go completely blank.
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Quote:12 hours from Z, the point in time at which my parcel was picked up by X courier, the parcel is in transit still.
Quote:At this point in time, give or take a few hours, the pre paid shipping returns label that I printed off and affixed to the parcel, happens to loose all ink on it, and go completely blank
Given the carrier collected the package "before" the label had the time to lose Its Ink, don't you think the driver would've already scanned, Identified It and marked It for delivery to Its destination?
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RE: Bleaching shipping labels? #12
(07-24-2020, 12:58 PM)mothered Wrote:
(07-24-2020, 12:32 PM)durden666 Wrote: I know that X courier picks up parcels from Y shop at roughly Z time each day. I proceed to drop a parcel at Y shop an hour before the Z time. I have affixed to the parcel a prepaid label that I've just pronted to return my parcel to Amazon.

I know that it will be sent either next day delivery or standard (a few days). 12 hours from Z, the point in time at which my parcel was picked up by X courier, the parcel is in transit still.

As it is probably either very late in the evening, or early hours of the morning, before the parcel would be out for delivery. At this point in time, give or take a few hours, the pre paid shipping returns label that I printed off and affixed to the parcel, happens to loose all ink on it, and go completely blank.
It's hard to follow a sentence In a single paragraph. I've broken down the main points.

Quote:12 hours from Z, the point in time at which my parcel was picked up by X courier, the parcel is in transit still.
Quote:At this point in time, give or take a few hours, the pre paid shipping returns label that I printed off and affixed to the parcel, happens to loose all ink on it, and go completely blank
Given the carrier collected the package "before" the label had the time to lose Its Ink, don't you think the driver would've already scanned, Identified It and marked It for delivery to Its destination?

Exactly the point which i am unsure about. Sure he might know roughly where it has to go. Regardless he will still have to scan the package (from my observations) before releasing it to the receiver, to mark it as delivered in the system. No?

Perhaps just my understanding of how courier systems work are not at the same level as yours. Perhaps they work slightly differently in the UK.

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RE: Bleaching shipping labels? #13
(07-24-2020, 01:15 PM)durden666 Wrote: Exactly the point which i am unsure about. Sure he might know roughly where it has to go. Regardless he will still have to scan the package (from my observations) before releasing it to the receiver, to mark it as delivered  in the system. No?
The point In this scenario, Is that the carrier scanned the package on collection. As such, the details are Instantly logged and updated on their systems at the depot and will obviously have the sender & receiver details on record.

Whatever happens with the shipping label thereafter, has little to no Impact on the package reaching Its destination. Sure, carriers do scan packages at the drop off point but scanners fail at the best of times, so It's not a mandatory requirement, nor does It deem whether the package Is marked as delivered. Where scanning Is not available, signatures, photos and/or GPS records are used to verify the delivery.
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RE: Bleaching shipping labels? #14
Still though - OP, has a good chance, give it a test, send yourself a box and see if it shows up!!

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RE: Bleaching shipping labels? #15
(07-24-2020, 10:38 PM)SE.UK Wrote: give it a test, send yourself a box and see if it shows up!!
Nothing to lose and everything to gain- should It succeed.
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RE: Bleaching shipping labels? #16
(07-24-2020, 10:38 PM)SE.UK Wrote: Still though - OP, has a good chance, give it a test, send yourself a box and see if it shows up!!

Great idea. I will test this myself as well. More points of reference is always a good idea.

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RE: Bleaching shipping labels? #17
(07-25-2020, 05:55 AM)mothered Wrote:
(07-24-2020, 10:38 PM)SE.UK Wrote: give it a test, send yourself a box and see if it shows up!!
Nothing to lose and everything to gain- should It succeed.

Again, as i have said before, I honestly do not see how a box can be identified and forwarded towards the exact, correct address, if it has no label when it arrives at the sorting facility of a very large courier company (without them obviously cross referencing every box already inside said facility, against every database entry, which would be an arduous long process, not worth their time. Even at that, whichever person performs this task would still probably question whether the results are correct). Therefore I believe that this method will in fact work. I just need to test it. The only downside is that it will take sometime to get a refund. Perhaps a month or so.

However feel free to more thoroughly explain the flaw in my plan if you see it. Im not being stubborn, I just genuinely dont see how it would not work. If I am in fact wrong, i would be glad to learn from my mistake. It would also save me a lot of time, effort and money.

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RE: Bleaching shipping labels? #18
(07-26-2020, 01:29 AM)durden666 Wrote: I honestly do not see how a box can be identified and forwarded towards the exact, correct address
Put simply, It's Identified when scanned at the collection point, as well as the description documented on the carrier's manifest. When cross-checked, both records will pinpoint the package In question.

Moreover, a lot of major carriers place packages on conveyor belts at their depot, whereby weights, dimensions and photos (of very angle) are taken prior to placing them at their designated section awaiting delivery. This barely scratches the surface of how goods are handled- but gives you a general Idea of how It works.

This Is based on 30+ years of personal experience In the shipping/freight sector, and not just something I've Googled.
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RE: Bleaching shipping labels? #19
(07-26-2020, 03:25 AM)mothered Wrote:
(07-26-2020, 01:29 AM)durden666 Wrote: I honestly do not see how a box can be identified and forwarded towards the exact, correct address
Put simply, It's Identified when scanned at the collection point, as well as the description documented on the carrier's manifest.  When cross-checked, both records will pinpoint the package In question.

Moreover, a lot of major carriers place packages on conveyor belts at their depot, whereby weights, dimensions and photos (of very angle) are taken prior to placing them at their designated section awaiting delivery. This barely scratches the surface of how goods are handled- but gives you a general Idea of how It works.

This Is based on 30+ years of personal experience In the shipping/freight sector, and not just something I've Googled.

I see. I will take this into consideration and research it further. Thanks for your input.

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RE: Bleaching shipping labels? #20
(07-27-2020, 07:20 PM)durden666 Wrote:
(07-26-2020, 03:25 AM)mothered Wrote:
(07-26-2020, 01:29 AM)durden666 Wrote: I honestly do not see how a box can be identified and forwarded towards the exact, correct address
Put simply, It's Identified when scanned at the collection point, as well as the description documented on the carrier's manifest.  When cross-checked, both records will pinpoint the package In question.

Moreover, a lot of major carriers place packages on conveyor belts at their depot, whereby weights, dimensions and photos (of very angle) are taken prior to placing them at their designated section awaiting delivery. This barely scratches the surface of how goods are handled- but gives you a general Idea of how It works.

This Is based on 30+ years of personal experience In the shipping/freight sector, and not just something I've Googled.

I see. I will take this into consideration and research it further. Thanks for your input.

Keep me posted on this. From my understanding, I think it stands a good chance, for example - once the label has been bleached -> courier pickup, successful scan. gets to the sorting office, barcode has ran, not scannable and therefore final destination is unknown. For companies which take the liability for lost returns in transit - easy refund.

I'll also give it a go and send myself a parcel and see if it shows up - will update
(This post was last modified: 07-27-2020, 10:10 PM by SE.UK.)

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