One of the ways to use CoViD to help SEing?

Johnngnky · 05-31-2020, 08:37 AM

(05-31-2020, 07:03 AM)mothered Wrote:
(05-31-2020, 06:34 AM)Johnngnky Wrote: How will the delivery driver proof that they actually dropped off the product? They could have stolen it.
They're not dropping It off, but rather waiting for a member of the household to accept It after they knock on the door:

Quote:its teams will place the parcel at your door. Having knocked on the door, the delivery teams will step aside to a safe distance while the item is retrieved.

The operative words are:
while the item Is retrieved

Meaning they'll await for a household member to personally accept It and If they neglect to do so, the delivery Is redirected to a local collection depot.

What if the SEer took it, and the delivery is marked as complete. Then said SEer denies they have taken it. How would the delivery driver be able to proof they didn't just take it for themselves and pretend someone took it?

mothered · 05-31-2020, 09:38 AM

(05-31-2020, 08:37 AM)Johnngnky Wrote: What if the SEer took it, and the delivery is marked as complete. Then said SEer denies they have taken it. How would the delivery driver be able to proof they didn't just take it for themselves and pretend someone took it?

Evidently, this Is one example of how the DNA method Is used and provided the SE'er Is adamant In denying receipt of the package, It will have a successful outcome. This Is why I keep mentioning that a package that's marked as delivered, does not conclude that you've personally received It.

One way I can see this failing when using Royal Mail, Is If they've delivered to hundreds of households In a given time frame, and you're the only one who claims not to have received the package. In such cases, the company will side with the majority and not the minority.

Defeat · 05-31-2020, 03:10 PM

(05-31-2020, 08:37 AM)Johnngnky Wrote:
(05-31-2020, 07:03 AM)mothered Wrote:
(05-31-2020, 06:34 AM)Johnngnky Wrote: How will the delivery driver proof that they actually dropped off the product? They could have stolen it.
They're not dropping It off, but rather waiting for a member of the household to accept It after they knock on the door:

Quote:its teams will place the parcel at your door. Having knocked on the door, the delivery teams will step aside to a safe distance while the item is retrieved.

The operative words are:
while the item Is retrieved

Meaning they'll await for a household member to personally accept It and If they neglect to do so, the delivery Is redirected to a local collection depot.

What if the SEer took it, and the delivery is marked as complete. Then said SEer denies they have taken it. How would the delivery driver be able to proof they didn't just take it for themselves and pretend someone took it?

Do you use PayPal for payment for curry's PC? If that is the case, I would be hesitant about thinking DNA would work with certainty if it fails with the merchant. I say this because I often think of PayPal as a safety net and sometimes it is for failures, but PayPal only cares about the tracking confirmation and nothing else.

Johnngnky · 05-31-2020, 03:16 PM

(05-31-2020, 03:10 PM)Strait McCool Wrote:
(05-31-2020, 08:37 AM)Johnngnky Wrote:
(05-31-2020, 07:03 AM)mothered Wrote: They're not dropping It off, but rather waiting for a member of the household to accept It after they knock on the door:

The operative words are:
while the item Is retrieved

Meaning they'll await for a household member to personally accept It and If they neglect to do so, the delivery Is redirected to a local collection depot.

What if the SEer took it, and the delivery is marked as complete. Then said SEer denies they have taken it. How would the delivery driver be able to proof they didn't just take it for themselves and pretend someone took it?

Do you use PayPal for payment for curry's PC? If that is the case, I would be hesitant about thinking DNA would work with certainty if it fails with the merchant. I say this because I often think of PayPal as a safety net and sometimes it is for failures, but PayPal only cares about the tracking confirmation and nothing else.

I'm not DNAing them. I'm simply doing a paypal chargeback on them.

Defeat · 05-31-2020, 03:34 PM

(05-31-2020, 03:16 PM)Johnngnky Wrote:
(05-31-2020, 03:10 PM)Strait McCool Wrote:
(05-31-2020, 08:37 AM)Johnngnky Wrote: What if the SEer took it, and the delivery is marked as complete. Then said SEer denies they have taken it. How would the delivery driver be able to proof they didn't just take it for themselves and pretend someone took it?

Do you use PayPal for payment for curry's PC? If that is the case, I would be hesitant about thinking DNA would work with certainty if it fails with the merchant. I say this because I often think of PayPal as a safety net and sometimes it is for failures, but PayPal only cares about the tracking confirmation and nothing else.

I'm not DNAing them. I'm simply doing a paypal chargeback on them.

PayPal chargeback? As in a claim of no authorization?

Johnngnky · 05-31-2020, 03:35 PM

(05-31-2020, 03:34 PM)Strait McCool Wrote:
(05-31-2020, 03:16 PM)Johnngnky Wrote:
(05-31-2020, 03:10 PM)Strait McCool Wrote: Do you use PayPal for payment for curry's PC? If that is the case, I would be hesitant about thinking DNA would work with certainty if it fails with the merchant. I say this because I often think of PayPal as a safety net and sometimes it is for failures, but PayPal only cares about the tracking confirmation and nothing else.

I'm not DNAing them. I'm simply doing a paypal chargeback on them.

PayPal chargeback? As in a claim of no authorization?

I've heard that they don't respond to paypal, so I plan on just saying DNA and claiming that curry's wasn't cooperative.

Defeat · 05-31-2020, 03:50 PM

(05-31-2020, 03:35 PM)Johnngnky Wrote:
(05-31-2020, 03:34 PM)Strait McCool Wrote:
(05-31-2020, 03:16 PM)Johnngnky Wrote: I'm not DNAing them. I'm simply doing a paypal chargeback on them.

PayPal chargeback? As in a claim of no authorization?

I've heard that they don't respond to paypal, so I plan on just saying DNA and claiming that curry's wasn't cooperative.

Ok then, perfect. Let us know the outcome in a few weeks!

Johnngnky · 05-31-2020, 03:55 PM

(05-31-2020, 03:50 PM)Strait McCool Wrote:
(05-31-2020, 03:35 PM)Johnngnky Wrote:
(05-31-2020, 03:34 PM)Strait McCool Wrote: PayPal chargeback? As in a claim of no authorization?

I've heard that they don't respond to paypal, so I plan on just saying DNA and claiming that curry's wasn't cooperative.

Ok then, perfect. Let us know the outcome in a few weeks!

I will! Thanks.

https://help.i-really-dont-want-to.live/weMVK4 <- that's all the options which DPD lets me choose.

Filament · 05-31-2020, 08:07 PM

Unrelated to conversations above, but a way that corona may help with SE: you can claim you have corona or you got the item for a friend who has corona in the hospital or something. They may not want to accept the item and simply process refund/ replacement. A single data point, but Bose insisted on proof of destruction when I tried this.

mothered · 06-01-2020, 03:57 AM

(05-31-2020, 08:07 PM)Filament Wrote: Unrelated to conversations above, but a way that corona may help with SE: you can claim you have corona or you got the item for a friend who has corona in the hospital or something. They may not want to accept the item and simply process refund/ replacement.

Given the Coronavirus remains on surfaces for ex-amount of days, for the most part, I think this will In fact work.