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Avoiding getting SE'ed/Scammed #1
Looking to use Facebook marketplace for cheap deals but very aware of the amount of wannabe wastemen scammers trying to fu k over individuals. Obviously there's lots of people on there with SE'ed goods which I'd be willing to buy (not technology so can't be tracked). This is because I've been pretty hot recently with bangs so looking to buy some stuff legitimate and then potentially resell stuff. If I pay using PayPal goods and services am I pretty protected? Are there any glaring scams or SE'es I should think of that they could pull. Surely if they send me a weighed down box I could do a legitimate WIR and they couldn't prove otherwise like a company.

Also does anyone know how to remove a seal check everything is actually in there them reseal, specifically lego. Just very aware if I resell if I go breaking seals to check I'm dumping value but if I don't check I'm leaving myself open to scam
(This post was last modified: 05-13-2024, 09:59 AM by Equilibrium.)

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RE: Avoiding getting SE'ed/Scammed #2
This is not related to FB Marketplace, but Ebay. I sold an Iphone on Ebay (biggest regret of my life so far) and this wasteman buyer opens a case with Ebay saying that the phone was damaged and leaking, and he sent me back a box of rocks. Ebay refunded him because it showed delivered. This really upset me, knowing there are dangerous people out there who are willing to screw up individuals. I mean, I am guilty as well but I steal from the rich companies, not small time sellers. I was so f**cking pissed that Ebay refunded him in full out of my pockets. Thankfully, Ebay compensated me for the loss including the delivery fees after I provided them a police report for theft.

What did I learn from this and what advice can I give you? DO NOT SELL ANYTHING EXPENSIVE ON EBAY. eBay will always side with the buyer always, regardless. I suggest you also build a good seller history with Ebay (as you get a good seller protection). Treat eBay staff with respect and they will like that. In honesty, the stereotypes are correct. Don't sell to anyone located in certain cities (CANCEL THE SALE if they are from a dodgy/ crime ridden city), and say there was a problem with address. It may sound harsh but I should've known this beforehand. I hope this helps you.
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RE: Avoiding getting SE'ed/Scammed #3
(05-13-2024, 10:56 PM)ThracianDecius Wrote: This is not related to FB Marketplace, but Ebay. I sold an Iphone on Ebay (biggest regret of my life so far) and this wasteman buyer opens a case with Ebay saying that the phone was damaged and leaking, and he sent me back a box of rocks. Ebay refunded him because it showed delivered. This really upset me, knowing there are dangerous people out there who are willing to screw up individuals. I mean, I am guilty as well but I steal from the rich companies, not small time sellers. I was so f**cking pissed that Ebay refunded him in full out of my pockets. Thankfully, Ebay compensated me for the loss including the delivery fees after I provided them a police report for theft.

What did I learn from this and what advice can I give you? DO NOT SELL ANYTHING EXPENSIVE ON EBAY. eBay will always side with the buyer always, regardless. I suggest you also build a good seller history with Ebay (as you get a good seller protection). Treat eBay staff with respect and they will like that. In honesty, the stereotypes are correct. Don't sell to anyone located in certain cities (CANCEL THE SALE if they are from a dodgy/ crime ridden city), and say there was a problem with address. It may sound harsh but I should've known this beforehand. I hope this helps you.

wtf what was the guy thinking, dont u have his address and all his info? what was the selling price and how long ago was this?

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RE: Avoiding getting SE'ed/Scammed #4
(05-13-2024, 11:14 PM)Huncho Wrote:
(05-13-2024, 10:56 PM)ThracianDecius Wrote: This is not related to FB Marketplace, but Ebay. I sold an Iphone on Ebay (biggest regret of my life so far) and this wasteman buyer opens a case with Ebay saying that the phone was damaged and leaking, and he sent me back a box of rocks. Ebay refunded him because it showed delivered. This really upset me, knowing there are dangerous people out there who are willing to screw up individuals. I mean, I am guilty as well but I steal from the rich companies, not small time sellers. I was so f**cking pissed that Ebay refunded him in full out of my pockets. Thankfully, Ebay compensated me for the loss including the delivery fees after I provided them a police report for theft.

What did I learn from this and what advice can I give you? DO NOT SELL ANYTHING EXPENSIVE ON EBAY. eBay will always side with the buyer always, regardless. I suggest you also build a good seller history with Ebay (as you get a good seller protection). Treat eBay staff with respect and they will like that. In honesty, the stereotypes are correct. Don't sell to anyone located in certain cities (CANCEL THE SALE if they are from a dodgy/ crime ridden city), and say there was a problem with address. It may sound harsh but I should've known this beforehand. I hope this helps you.

wtf what was the guy thinking, dont u have his address and all his info? what was the selling price and how long ago was this?
Scumbag trashy people. Yeah I have all his info, and it was a few months ago.
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RE: Avoiding getting SE'ed/Scammed #5
(05-13-2024, 11:14 PM)Huncho Wrote:
(05-13-2024, 10:56 PM)ThracianDecius Wrote: This is not related to FB Marketplace, but Ebay. I sold an Iphone on Ebay (biggest regret of my life so far) and this wasteman buyer opens a case with Ebay saying that the phone was damaged and leaking, and he sent me back a box of rocks. Ebay refunded him because it showed delivered. This really upset me, knowing there are dangerous people out there who are willing to screw up individuals. I mean, I am guilty as well but I steal from the rich companies, not small time sellers. I was so f**cking pissed that Ebay refunded him in full out of my pockets. Thankfully, Ebay compensated me for the loss including the delivery fees after I provided them a police report for theft.

What did I learn from this and what advice can I give you? DO NOT SELL ANYTHING EXPENSIVE ON EBAY. eBay will always side with the buyer always, regardless. I suggest you also build a good seller history with Ebay (as you get a good seller protection). Treat eBay staff with respect and they will like that. In honesty, the stereotypes are correct. Don't sell to anyone located in certain cities (CANCEL THE SALE if they are from a dodgy/ crime ridden city), and say there was a problem with address. It may sound harsh but I should've known this beforehand. I hope this helps you.

wtf what was the guy thinking, dont u have his address and all his info? what was the selling price and how long ago was this?

Some people probably assume you won't do anything. Are you gonna drive 150 miles over 600 quid? Maybe ,maybe not. But once you get there what are you going to do when they say no, assault or damage the property. They'd be quick to call police and suddenly that 600 isn't worth it. It's scummy but they know how to game the system to screw over individuals. As the above poster I've done fair share of big companies but screwing over the working man is cruel

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RE: Avoiding getting SE'ed/Scammed #6
(05-13-2024, 09:57 AM)Equilibrium Wrote: Also does anyone know how to remove a seal check everything is actually in there them reseal, specifically lego. Just very aware if I resell if I go breaking seals to check I'm dumping value but if I don't check I'm leaving myself open to scam

Removing seals is often possible but the process for each one can be very different. Best way to check is by acquiring the empty box of the item and practicing.

(05-13-2024, 10:56 PM)ThracianDecius Wrote: This is not related to FB Marketplace, but Ebay. I sold an Iphone on Ebay (biggest regret of my life so far) and this wasteman buyer opens a case with Ebay saying that the phone was damaged and leaking, and he sent me back a box of rocks. Ebay refunded him because it showed delivered. This really upset me, knowing there are dangerous people out there who are willing to screw up individuals. I mean, I am guilty as well but I steal from the rich companies, not small time sellers. I was so f**cking pissed that Ebay refunded him in full out of my pockets. Thankfully, Ebay compensated me for the loss including the delivery fees after I provided them a police report for theft.

What did I learn from this and what advice can I give you? DO NOT SELL ANYTHING EXPENSIVE ON EBAY. eBay will always side with the buyer always, regardless. I suggest you also build a good seller history with Ebay (as you get a good seller protection). Treat eBay staff with respect and they will like that. In honesty, the stereotypes are correct. Don't sell to anyone located in certain cities (CANCEL THE SALE if they are from a dodgy/ crime ridden city), and say there was a problem with address. It may sound harsh but I should've known this beforehand. I hope this helps you.

While I agree with a lot of what you are saying especially about building a strong seller profile and avoiding untrustworthy looking customers, the two things contradict each other. Every order you cancel on eBay for any other reason than the customer asking you to will result in a defection on the account, too many defections decreases the seller level once you get outside a certain threshold and eventually they will suspend your account indefinitely.

Do not cancel orders, eBay despise this.
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Blade right hand, heat left
Large retailers, bereft
As master of seal
Undetected I steal

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RE: Avoiding getting SE'ed/Scammed #7
(05-14-2024, 05:22 PM)EquitableEngineer Wrote:
(05-13-2024, 09:57 AM)Equilibrium Wrote: Also does anyone know how to remove a seal check everything is actually in there them reseal, specifically lego. Just very aware if I resell if I go breaking seals to check I'm dumping value but if I don't check I'm leaving myself open to scam

Removing seals is often possible but the process for each one can be very different. Best way to check is by acquiring the empty box of the item and practicing.

(05-13-2024, 10:56 PM)ThracianDecius Wrote: This is not related to FB Marketplace, but Ebay. I sold an Iphone on Ebay (biggest regret of my life so far) and this wasteman buyer opens a case with Ebay saying that the phone was damaged and leaking, and he sent me back a box of rocks. Ebay refunded him because it showed delivered. This really upset me, knowing there are dangerous people out there who are willing to screw up individuals. I mean, I am guilty as well but I steal from the rich companies, not small time sellers. I was so f**cking pissed that Ebay refunded him in full out of my pockets. Thankfully, Ebay compensated me for the loss including the delivery fees after I provided them a police report for theft.

What did I learn from this and what advice can I give you? DO NOT SELL ANYTHING EXPENSIVE ON EBAY. eBay will always side with the buyer always, regardless. I suggest you also build a good seller history with Ebay (as you get a good seller protection). Treat eBay staff with respect and they will like that. In honesty, the stereotypes are correct. Don't sell to anyone located in certain cities (CANCEL THE SALE if they are from a dodgy/ crime ridden city), and say there was a problem with address. It may sound harsh but I should've known this beforehand. I hope this helps you.

While I agree with a lot of what you are saying especially about building a strong seller profile and avoiding untrustworthy looking customers, the two things contradict each other. Every order you cancel on eBay for any other reason than the customer asking you to will result in a defection on the account, too many defections decreases the seller level once you get outside a certain threshold and eventually they will suspend your account indefinitely.

Do not cancel orders, eBay despise this.
Do you even sell on ebay?? You should be aware of the option to cancel with a "Problem with shipping address". I am sure this doesn't leave a strike. However, the buyer is likely to leave you a negative seller rating which is just the bad part of doing this.
(This post was last modified: 05-14-2024, 10:02 PM by ThracianDecius.)
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RE: Avoiding getting SE'ed/Scammed #8
(05-14-2024, 10:00 PM)ThracianDecius Wrote: Do you even sell on ebay?? You should be aware of the option to cancel with a "Problem with shipping address". I am sure this doesn't leave a strike. However, the buyer is likely to leave you a negative seller rating which is just the bad part of doing this.
Ive been selling on eBay for years and have never had to do this. It cant be that common so doing it repeatedly on the account will definitely raise a flag, plus the customer potentially leaving negative feedback like you said.
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Undetected I steal

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RE: Avoiding getting SE'ed/Scammed #9
As a buyer, your best option is to simply record yourself unboxing the packages you receive (make sure to get a full, clear view of the shipping label and the rest of the box so you can demonstrate that it was not opened prior to the recording starting).

This is what I do for high-value items I order from individuals online.

As a seller, from my experience, your best options are, in no particular order:

1. Ship via FedEx. They record weight at every scan and are typically harder for people to FTID or claim DNA because they're generally more thorough with their investigations. Pay the couple of extra bucks to require signatures and fully insure your packages. You wouldn't believe the amount of people whom are too cheep or greedy to pay $8 in order to fully cover their $900+ products.

2. As with what I mentioned doing as a buyer, record EVERYTHING. If you're constantly selling online then you should have a scale, so weigh and record the weight of your package and its condition. You can even go an extra mile and record yourself dropping off the package (again, make sure to get clear footage of the label). And as an extra, extra mile, if you have a dashcam then you can save the video after you're finished dropping off the package and are back in your car.

3. Always take a drop-off receipt.

4. Learn about what people are doing when FTIDng labels. You sent a package to New York and it's now being returned from Arizona or a different state? That should immediately evoke your suspicion. I've seen some eBay sellers whom have had scammers' accounts suspended and the cases found in their favor simply because they pointed out this discrepancy.

5. Record, record, record. If something is being returned to you, now would be an especially good time to start recording before you unbox it.

I think that's about the best you can do. Use what you learn from this forum not just to SE companies, but to prevent yourself being SE'd.

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