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Learn from refunders #1
Hello,

I had an idea this morning. I know someone among my "friends" that gets paid to get instant amazon refunds ( and nike too )
What's a way so that i can leak his method? Is there a way to ask amazon latest chats?
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RE: Learn from refunders #2
(06-16-2022, 06:19 PM)Blackyi22 Wrote: Hello,

I had an idea this morning. I know someone among my "friends" that gets paid to get instant amazon refunds ( and nike too )
What's a way so that i can leak his method? Is there a way to ask amazon latest chats?

Yes, at least in EU, you can ask Amazon to get a copy of all your chats and phone calls with the support center
I can confirm, as I've had a friend send me the recorded call of a refunder.. who literally just said "Item didn't arrive" and that's it
And they charge 20-30% of the order value just for that, makes me mad
Not too sure WHERE you get it though, guess you can try asking directly on the chat itself? Saying you need it for whatever reason, it's your data and you want it
(This post was last modified: 06-16-2022, 06:26 PM by Nabeshin.)

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RE: Learn from refunders #3
(06-16-2022, 06:26 PM)Nabeshin Wrote: Yes, at least in EU, you can ask Amazon to get a copy of all your chats and phone calls with the support center
I can confirm, as I've had a friend send me the recorded call of a refunder.. who literally just said "Item didn't arrive" and that's it
And they charge 20-30% of the order value just for that, makes me mad
Not too sure WHERE you get it though, guess you can try asking directly on the chat itself? Saying you need it for whatever reason, it's your data and you want it
Thank you soooo much for this response, before asking my friend i'm gonna try to get the logs, maybe i can write here if i get success and by doing what

(06-16-2022, 06:33 PM)Blackyi22 Wrote: Thank you soooo much for this response, before asking my friend i'm gonna try to get the logs, maybe i can write here if i get success and by doing what

They answered me (translated):
The chat history can be seen directly by "scrolling" to this one as well, it should also see those that occurred previously
As for calls, they are not available unless solicited by an authority as part of an investigation or complaint
(This post was last modified: 06-16-2022, 06:39 PM by Blackyi22.)
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RE: Learn from refunders #4
So did he use the chat or the phone? I'm really curious.

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RE: Learn from refunders #5
(06-16-2022, 07:43 PM)Starkel Wrote: So did he use the chat or the phone? I'm really curious.
I've yet to ask him to refund me as he requested me to pay him 100€ on a 500€ refund (20%)
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RE: Learn from refunders #6
I made a topic on this subject. I would have liked to know if he used new techniques, or things we already know.

I see for example that my contact can refund 4 items in amazon EU for 10 000e, even on a new account.
It seems crazy to me. I have SE a lot, but never to this level.

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RE: Learn from refunders #7
(06-16-2022, 08:00 PM)Starkel Wrote: I made a topic on this subject. I would have liked to know if he used new techniques, or things we already know.

I see for example that my contact can refund 4 items in amazon EU for 10 000e, even on a new account.
It seems crazy to me. I have SE a lot, but never to this level.
Do you have any way to test him out? Maybe trying on 200€ (to have low fees)
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RE: Learn from refunders #8
(06-16-2022, 08:02 PM)Blackyi22 Wrote:
(06-16-2022, 08:00 PM)Starkel Wrote: I made a topic on this subject. I would have liked to know if he used new techniques, or things we already know.

I see for example that my contact can refund 4 items in amazon EU for 10 000e, even on a new account.
It seems crazy to me. I have SE a lot, but never to this level.
Do you have any way to test him out? Maybe trying on 200€  (to have low fees)

You can do 200€ easily yourself by claiming DNA, no need to ask a refunder who's definitely gonna use that method anyway

(06-16-2022, 06:33 PM)Blackyi22 Wrote:
(06-16-2022, 06:26 PM)Nabeshin Wrote: Yes, at least in EU, you can ask Amazon to get a copy of all your chats and phone calls with the support center
I can confirm, as I've had a friend send me the recorded call of a refunder.. who literally just said "Item didn't arrive" and that's it
And they charge 20-30% of the order value just for that, makes me mad
Not too sure WHERE you get it though, guess you can try asking directly on the chat itself? Saying you need it for whatever reason, it's your data and you want it
Thank you soooo much for this response, before asking my friend i'm gonna try to get the logs, maybe i can write here if i get success and by doing what

(06-16-2022, 06:33 PM)Blackyi22 Wrote: Thank you soooo much for this response, before asking my friend i'm gonna try to get the logs, maybe i can write here if i get success and by doing what

They answered me (translated):
The chat history can be seen directly by "scrolling" to this one as well, it should also see those that occurred previously
As for calls, they are not available unless solicited by an authority as part of an investigation or complaint

If you're in EU try asking them for the data because of GDPR regulations
I think that's the reason my friend used to get the phone call recording from Amazon.de
(This post was last modified: 06-16-2022, 08:26 PM by Nabeshin.)

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RE: Learn from refunders #9
(06-16-2022, 08:25 PM)Nabeshin Wrote: If you're in EU try asking them for the data because of GDPR regulations
I think that's the reason my friend used to get the phone call recording from Amazon.de
Thank you! gonna try this
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RE: Learn from refunders #10
(06-16-2022, 08:00 PM)Starkel Wrote: I made a topic on this subject. I would have liked to know if he used new techniques, or things we already know.

I see for example that my contact can refund 4 items in amazon EU for 10 000e, even on a new account.
It seems crazy to me. I have SE a lot, but never to this level.

That amount is done by a UPS insider, that's why. Its currently the only thing worth going to a refunder for tbh

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