[mothered]

too many people dish this term around without a real definition of it.

Just a variant of Its useless originator.

[Olafatron]

What do you mean by this? so essentially an empty package or perhaps placing a random item inside just to be safe?

Corrugated cardboard and the like.

It adds weight and gives the Impression that you're protecting the perfume from damage In transit.

Oh I see. I think I've got some bubble wrap lying around as well. I can also spray the package a bit, to give the impression that perfume was in the box.

[mothered]

I can also spray the package a bit, to give the impression that perfume was in the box.

Good thought.

You've got everything covered, so please keep us updated with the latest developments.

[Olafatron]

I can also spray the package a bit, to give the impression that perfume was in the box.

Good thought.

You've got everything covered, so please keep us updated with the latest developments.

Worked a treat. Got the replacement approved. I am potentially feeling a cheeky double dip.

[mothered]

Worked a treat. Got the replacement approved. I am potentially feeling a cheeky double dip.

As per my post below, I did not Identify any Inconsistencies with your method, hence was quite confident of Its success.

You've got everything covered

You did very well Indeed, congrats.

In terms of the double-dip, we're all here to help - If you need It.

[2ndround]

I can also spray the package a bit, to give the impression that perfume was in the box.

Good thought.

You've got everything covered, so please keep us updated with the latest developments.

I know that you are not a fan of the method, you explained in detail why it should not work.
However it can still work.

Don't you think its comparable to DNA? In the way that the company sees they received nothing, something else etc but they still decide to trust the customer.
With DNA they can also see that something was delivered, even proven by GPS location but they can still approve refunds.

[mothered]

I know that you are not a fan of the method, you explained in detail why it should not work.
However it can still work.

If you're referring to the so-called FTID, I didn't say It doesn't work.

In fact, I've detailed an article on how It does work - based on the laziness, stupidity, Incompetency, mismanagement and Incapacity of those handling the shipment and the consignment's administration. Evidently, that's not how traditional methods are designed and formulated to operate.

Don't you think its comparable to DNA? In the way that the company sees they received nothing, something else etc but they still decide to trust the customer.

Not at all.

The DNA succeeds due to the effectiveness of the method Itself, as opposed to the aforementioned events with the so-called FTID.

With DNA they can also see that something was delivered, even proven by GPS location but they can still approve refunds.

GPS/tracking Is a useless form of verification.

It cannot confirm In any way, shape, or form delivery to a "person". It only marks It delivered to an "address", hence the recipient did not personally receive the package.

[2ndround]

I know that you are not a fan of the method, you explained in detail why it should not work.
However it can still work.

If you're referring to the so-called FTID, I didn't say It doesn't work.

In fact, I've detailed an article on how It does work - based on the laziness, stupidity, Incompetency, mismanagement and Incapacity of those handling the shipment and the consignment's administration. Evidently, that's not how traditional methods are designed and formulated to operate.

Ok, from what I understood on your posts and articles that you were more skeptical about it working as you outlined all of the touchpoints where ftid should go wrong.

Don't you think its comparable to DNA? In the way that the company sees they received nothing, something else etc but they still decide to trust the customer.

Not at all.

The DNA succeeds due to the effectiveness of the method Itself, as opposed to the aforementioned events with the so-called FTID.

With DNA they can also see that something was delivered, even proven by GPS location but they can still approve refunds.

The method can be more effective but in both cases the company has to believe the SE for them to refund as according to everything they see it has been delivered or a return of the products in the order were not received into the warehouse.

I think that my favourite return that I saw you comment on was when someone posted about nike returns. The method was putting one nike item on the top and returning old clothes which was hilarious.

GPS/tracking Is a useless form of verification.

It cannot confirm In any way, shape, or form delivery to a "person". It only marks It delivered to an "address", hence the recipient did not personally receive the package.

Fair point, it means they were there but where is the proof that the receiver actually received it. You said once about a picture of an open door not being proof is unimaginable for most people that you can still claim it wasn't received.

However, I can confirm you are right on both.
I am sure that many people newer to SE are put off when they are confronted by those pieces of evidence and a denial from the company.

[mothered]

Fair point, it means they were there but where is the proof that the receiver actually received it.

Correct.

I've actually witnessed drivers stopping at the delivery point, waiting In their vehicle for a few minutes (to update the GPS/tracking details), and drive off with the package In hand.