[fishly]

I have been dabbling in refunds since 2018, stopping around end of 2020. Around the time I stopped, the FTID method was popular and I even used it myself. I mostly used it for Amazon and it worked wonderfully back then (I have probably done 10+ refunds all $1k + with the highest being 4.5k, using FTID with them ALL succeeding, of course on different accounts via friends) . Please note that I am in Australia so the Amazon AU policies might be different here.

Recently, I wanted to get a sewing/quilting machine ( ~2.4k) and some mics ( ~ 1.2k) for a total of around 3.6k. It was my mistake to not do more research as I blindly assumed that FTID is/was the best method. So I go ahead and do it, editing the label for it to deliver to a different address, filling the package with some packing peanuts. Later on, about 10 days later, when I contact Amazon, I notice that the chat interface has changed a lot from what I remember, even showing most if not all the times I contacted Amazon through live chat (I scrolled up and could read convos back from 2019 and 2020 I believe). The rep informed me that I would need to wait 2 weeks (which will be in 4 days from the time of posting) after which if the refund is not processed ( it shouldn't be as I sent back nothing but packing peanuts), they would open up an investigation.

The sewing machine weighs a lot, like 12kgs + & signed for so that why I didn't want to do DNA/EB

Now, in the past, I could live chat Amazon 1 week after I did the FTID and they would always manually process/refund me without any investigation. Through more research, I realise that FTID is not the godly method it was made out to be and I could be fucked here. Combined with Amazon chat being changed to show all the history, which made me kind of spooked as I could read back when I FTID'd back in early 2020, the rep saying an investigation will be opened and the fact that the method itself is flawed has made me worried.

Another thing is that my account has a history of refunds - 2 DNA in 2018/2019 I think, 2 FTID in 2019/ early-mid 2020, but after that no refunds with a good number of legit/real purchases being made since then

My question is, has anyone used FTID and succeeded recently with Amazon?
If the FTID DOES fail, what should I expect to happen? I have not touched the items at all, they are still in the Amazon boxes that I got them in... If they say that they received empty packages should I just make an excuse such as "oh my room mate sent the wrong package, let me resend them to you" and return them legitly?

What are my options here ? Please let me know your thoughts

I will update in the next few days when the 2 weeks are up and hopefully it goes through fine. I will not be using this method moving forward.

[mothered]

even showing most if not all the times I contacted Amazon through live chat (I scrolled up and could read convos back from 2019 and 2020)

Irrespective of age, records are kept of all chat sessions and every other communication gateway.

The sewing machine weighs a lot, like 12kgs + & signed for so that why I didn't want to do DNA

Firstly, unless you're SEing a family home (so to speak) the weight has no relevance to the DNA method.

Secondly, when signed with a fake signature, It cannot conclude It belongs to you hence "you did not personally receive the package". You should've opted for the DNA to begin with.

I have not touched the items at all, they are still in the Amazon boxes that I got them in.
If the FTID DOES fail, what should I expect to happen?
What are my options here ?

If the packaging/box Is suitable, use the sealed box method.

Although one Item Is 12kg, provided you match the weight, the method can still be used accordingly.

[fishly]

even showing most if not all the times I contacted Amazon through live chat (I scrolled up and could read convos back from 2019 and 2020)

Irrespective of age, records are kept of all chat sessions and every other communication gateway.

The sewing machine weighs a lot, like 12kgs + & signed for so that why I didn't want to do DNA

Firstly, unless you're SEing a family home (so to speak) the weight has no relevance to the DNA method.

Secondly, when signed with a fake signature, It cannot conclude It belongs to you hence "you did not personally receive the package". You should've opted for the DNA to begin with.

I have not touched the items at all, they are still in the Amazon boxes that I got them in.
If the FTID DOES fail, what should I expect to happen?
What are my options here ?

If the packaging/box Is suitable, use the sealed box method.

Although one Item Is 12kg, provided you match the weight, the method can still be used accordingly.

I didn't want to use DNA as I already used it previously and up to that point, in my eyes, TFID worked fine

If it does fail, would I just say "oh sorry room mate sent wrong package, let me resend" then use the sealed box method?

[mothered]

I didn't want to use DNA as I already used it previously and up to that point, in my eyes, TFID worked fine

Fair enough.

If it does fail, would I just say "oh sorry room mate sent wrong package, let me resend" then use the sealed box method?

Correct.

That aside, welcome to our community.

[Roadman]

In terms of it failing, you can return the items normally like nothings happened. You can even use the same previous return label.

As for what's happened, it seems to me Amazon Australia has finally catched up with other countries in terms of security as investigations for 30 days has always been a thing in UK and USA.

You have been lucky to get 1 week ftids in the past. I have never heard of that before.

So in answer to your question the only way your ftid will fail is if they say youve had too many refunds, rather than the method itself.

Keep us informed!

[fishly]

In terms of it failing, you can return the items normally like nothings happened. You can even use the same previous return label.

As for what's happened, it seems to me Amazon Australia has finally catched up with other countries in terms of security as investigations for 30 days has always been a thing in UK and USA.

You have been lucky to get 1 week ftids in the past. I have never heard of that before.

So in answer to your question the only way your ftid will fail is if they say youve had too many refunds, rather than the method itself.

Keep us informed!

Yea, after reading other people's experience, seems like 1 week TFID is pretty rare. I think Amazon AU might just be behind other countries in security in that back then (2018-2020) I've seen friends do DNA,EB, Partial EB with orders like 1.5-2k which seems kind of "impossible" with other countries.

I can't find much info on Amazon TFID fails, or maybe I'm not looking in the right place... I assume the way I know that it fail is when I ask again in a few days and they say something along the lines of either " your refund has been declined for X reason" or "the package you sent back is empty, please send back the real thing"

[kicksaus]

Does FTID amazon still work in Aus? Havent done it in a while
whats the best in aus rn need to catch up ahahah

[mothered]

whats the best in aus rn need to catch up

Which company do you have In mind, and what Item are you planning to SE?

[NGAMER]

Hello everyone. Can u help me return order with Pickup option. Amazon gave just tracking, no drop off label, so i have to return order with this option. Any advices? Thanks

[mothered]

Hello everyone. Can u help me return order with Pickup option. Amazon gave just tracking, no drop off label, so i have to return order with this option. Any advices? Thanks

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