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Importance of VPN/Tor - TheBoyD - 07-31-2018
So I have been reading some of the post from HQ members, and time to time they bring up VPN or Tor. I have been SEing for around year and a half and never used any of them. I kinda got concerned about it. I think that if you dont rape company, like do them once or twice, and use reship/drop, you shouldnt worry about. If someone would like to share a thought about this it would be nice.
RE: Importance of VPN/Tor - protomcd - 08-01-2018
Well I totally agree with you man as long as you dont fuck a company to many times and switch names addresses than you should be good without a vpn, for me personally I have not used a vpn once while sing i just see no need for it
RE: Importance of VPN/Tor - mothered - 08-01-2018
Irrespective of Intentions, It's good practice to use a VPN at all times.
You don't know what Identifiable Information a given site can obtain. For example, If a JavaScript code Is embedded In a webpage that you're viewing, It can get your location without any permission whatsoever. Let alone your IP address (both Internal & external), hardware specs, social media account types, connection type and the list goes on.
RE: Importance of VPN/Tor - DragonicRek - 08-01-2018
Yes, I use the opera built in vpn when SE'ing.
*I use online phones to secure my privacy along with voice changers
RE: Importance of VPN/Tor - mothered - 08-01-2018
(08-01-2018, 07:30 AM)GosuSang Wrote: Yes, I use the opera built in vpn when SE'ing.
It will definitely suffice.
When SEing, basically any VPN will do. If you're Into serious exploitation, a VPN Is only a minority of your anonymity. Fingerprinting, DNS, connection, hardware leaks, digital footprints etc are not protected using a VPN.
RE: Importance of VPN/Tor - coup de grâce - 08-02-2018
(08-01-2018, 07:38 AM)mothered Wrote: Fingerprinting, DNS, connection, hardware leaks, digital footprints etc are not protected using a VPN.
Oh God, he cried I never knew what it meant to be real I thought all this was a joke. So funny I forgot to laugh. Tell me how that comes 'DNS' and 'connection' are not protected using properly configured VPN? In fact VPN does protect connection confidentiality such that even if the network traffic is sniffed at the packet level an attacker would see only encrypted data. Furthermore mind explaining what the hairy ball sack is the difference between 'fingerprint' vs 'digital footprints'???
RE: Importance of VPN/Tor - mothered - 08-02-2018
(08-02-2018, 01:12 AM)coup de grâce Wrote:(08-01-2018, 07:38 AM)mothered Wrote: Fingerprinting, DNS, connection, hardware leaks, digital footprints etc are not protected using a VPN.
Oh God, he cried I never knew what it meant to be real I thought all this was a joke. So funny I forgot to laugh. Tell me how that comes 'DNS' and 'connection' are not protected using properly configured VPN? In fact VPN does protect connection confidentiality such that even if the network traffic is sniffed at the packet level an attacker would see only encrypted data. Furthermore mind explaining what the hairy ball sack is the difference between 'fingerprint' vs 'digital footprints'???
Evidently, you have very little knowledge and unfortunately generate full trust In whatever VPN It Is you're using. The VPN's configuration Is Immaterial.
Is your ISP Intercepting/rerouting your traffic via transparent DNS proxy, thereby forcing the use of their DNS servers as opposed to the VPN? Stating the absolute obvious, ever heard of a DNS leak?
Ever come across browser leaks on a personal & device level, hence exposing/leaking (fingerprinting) your browser type & version, OS, Internal & external IP address, CPU, connection type, battery charging level (where applicable), Identifiable account logins? This Is just a minority. It's way beyond the scope of this post to document every minute detail.
And all the above Is whilst you're behind a VPN. I strongly suggest you educate yourself, or simply shoot me a PM and I'll be more than happy to be a short-term mentor.
RE: Importance of VPN/Tor - coup de grâce - 08-02-2018
(08-02-2018, 08:58 AM)mothered Wrote:You still haven't reply me how well configured VPN doesn't protect 'connection' ? and how that comes the VPN's configuration is immaterial? Did you ever in your life opened VPN certifications to fix DNS leaks configuring addition parameters? By the bye I habitually carry out extended DNS leak tests once connected to the VPN and haven't noticed any malformed interception so far (shot me a pm and in head with magnum 38 if I am doing tremendously wrong).(08-02-2018, 01:12 AM)coup de grâce Wrote:(08-01-2018, 07:38 AM)mothered Wrote: Fingerprinting, DNS, connection, hardware leaks, digital footprints etc are not protected using a VPN.
Oh God, he cried I never knew what it meant to be real I thought all this was a joke. So funny I forgot to laugh. Tell me how that comes 'DNS' and 'connection' are not protected using properly configured VPN? In fact VPN does protect connection confidentiality such that even if the network traffic is sniffed at the packet level an attacker would see only encrypted data. Furthermore mind explaining what the hairy ball sack is the difference between 'fingerprint' vs 'digital footprints'???
Evidently, you have very little knowledge and unfortunately generate full trust In whatever VPN It Is you're using. The VPN's configuration Is Immaterial.
Is your ISP Intercepting/rerouting your traffic via transparent DNS proxy, thereby forcing the use of their DNS servers as opposed to the VPN? Stating the absolute obvious, ever heard of a DNS leak?
Ever come across browser leaks on a personal & device level, hence exposing/leaking (fingerprinting) your browser type & version, OS, Internal & external IP address, CPU, connection type, battery charging level (where applicable), Identifiable account logins? This Is just a minority. It's way beyond the scope of this post to document every minute detail.
And all the above Is whilst you're behind a VPN. I strongly suggest you educate yourself, or simply shoot me a PM and I'll be more than happy to be a short-term mentor.
Furthermore I asked you whats the difference between 'fingerprint' and 'digital footprints' as you casually stated both in your post. To me it looks like the same shit. (Yes, I am aware of the browser fingerprinting stuff like User Agent and WebRTC to name a few). But it seems like attack is the best defense and you are trying to drive me trough lunacy, indirectly implying that I am insane, evidently not answering my questions instead stating the obvious?
RE: Importance of VPN/Tor - mothered - 08-02-2018
(08-02-2018, 09:53 AM)coup de grâce Wrote:(08-02-2018, 08:58 AM)mothered Wrote:You still haven't reply me how VPN doesn't protect 'connection' ? and how that comes the VPN's configuration is immaterial? By the bye I habitually carry out extended DNS leak tests once connected to the VPN and haven't noticed any malformed interception so far (shot me a pm and in head with magnum 38 if I am wrong). Furthermore I asked you whats the difference between 'fingerprint' and 'digital footprints' as you casually stated above both in your post. Because to me it looks like the same shit. (Yes, I am aware of the browser fingerprinting stuff like User Agent and WebRTC to name a few). But it seems like attack is the best defense and you trying to drive me trough lunacy indirectly implying that I am insane evidently not answering my questions but stating the obvious?(08-02-2018, 01:12 AM)coup de grâce Wrote: Oh God, he cried I never knew what it meant to be real I thought all this was a joke. So funny I forgot to laugh. Tell me how that comes 'DNS' and 'connection' are not protected using properly configured VPN? In fact VPN does protect connection confidentiality such that even if the network traffic is sniffed at the packet level an attacker would see only encrypted data. Furthermore mind explaining what the hairy ball sack is the difference between 'fingerprint' vs 'digital footprints'???
Evidently, you have very little knowledge and unfortunately generate full trust In whatever VPN It Is you're using. The VPN's configuration Is Immaterial.
Is your ISP Intercepting/rerouting your traffic via transparent DNS proxy, thereby forcing the use of their DNS servers as opposed to the VPN? Stating the absolute obvious, ever heard of a DNS leak?
Ever come across browser leaks on a personal & device level, hence exposing/leaking (fingerprinting) your browser type & version, OS, Internal & external IP address, CPU, connection type, battery charging level (where applicable), Identifiable account logins? This Is just a minority. It's way beyond the scope of this post to document every minute detail.
And all the above Is whilst you're behind a VPN. I strongly suggest you educate yourself, or simply shoot me a PM and I'll be more than happy to be a short-term mentor.
Quote:Furthermore I asked you whats the difference between 'fingerprint' and 'digital footprints'
The former Is what's exposed at the time. The latter Is what's left behind during your online navigation, hence "footprint". An analogy Is leaving a trail of footprints after stepping In a muddy outdoor area.
Your Incapacity to absorb the contents of my aforementioned post Is clear. I cannot simplify It any further.
As such, our discussion has concluded.
Period.