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New amazon account? - Qlova - 07-17-2018
I am wondering what information would need to be different for a new amazon account that I would use for refunding. Would it all need to be different; name, address, billing details? The only other payment method I can use is by using somebody else PayPal from my household, as my account has been suspended.
Also what are the procedures if amazon find out you have more accounts, and if my account was to get blacklisted, does this affect all accounts in my household?
RE: New amazon account? - izzy - 07-17-2018
black list yes it effects the whole house everything has to be different also disable cookies and use a vpn so dont use a card with your name and dont use any cards that are already used in your house from other family members just to be extra safe
RE: New amazon account? - mothered - 07-17-2018
Further to the above post, leave nothing to chance.
Change every detail possible, leaving very little room for exposure. Never underestimate Amazon's capacity In Identifying and linking similarities between accounts.
RE: New amazon account? - izzy - 07-17-2018
(07-17-2018, 04:05 PM)mothered Wrote: Further to the above post, leave nothing to chance.
Change every detail possible, leaving very little room for exposure. Never underestimate Amazon's capacity In Identifying and linking similarities between accounts.
as you are an experienced member something cam into my mind which made me curious is it not possible so spam different paypal accounts fill them with money and by from amazon or would they be able to see the card linked to paypal for example he makes a new paypal (new name details ) and then pay them from that without it being noticed ? trying to think of new ways from the good old gift card to another account trick
RE: New amazon account? - Qlova - 07-17-2018
I can use a VPN but I do not have any other payment method to use apart from my card or other PayPal accounts from my household, as mine was suspended. Any suggestions?
(07-17-2018, 04:15 PM)izzy Wrote:(07-17-2018, 04:05 PM)mothered Wrote: Further to the above post, leave nothing to chance.
Change every detail possible, leaving very little room for exposure. Never underestimate Amazon's capacity In Identifying and linking similarities between accounts.
as you are an experienced member something cam into my mind which made me curious is it not possible so spam different paypal accounts fill them with money and by from amazon or would they be able to see the card linked to paypal for example he makes a new paypal (new name details ) and then pay them from that without it being noticed ? trying to think of new ways from the good old gift card to another account trick
Paypal would limit your account and you'd have to go through all the security checks. Paypal also do not allow more than 1 account and are VERY strict with this now. If you somehow did get past this, large amounts of money going in and out would create attention and if you were creating disputes, this would also cause an issue.
But I do not believe amazon can see details such as cards on PayPal accounts, they would just see that a PayPal account is linked and the name of the owner.
RE: New amazon account? - izzy - 07-17-2018
(07-17-2018, 04:20 PM)Qlova Wrote: I can use a VPN but I do not have any other payment method to use apart from my card or other PayPal accounts from my household, as mine was suspended. Any suggestions?
(07-17-2018, 04:15 PM)izzy Wrote:(07-17-2018, 04:05 PM)mothered Wrote: Further to the above post, leave nothing to chance.
Change every detail possible, leaving very little room for exposure. Never underestimate Amazon's capacity In Identifying and linking similarities between accounts.
as you are an experienced member something cam into my mind which made me curious is it not possible so spam different paypal accounts fill them with money and by from amazon or would they be able to see the card linked to paypal for example he makes a new paypal (new name details ) and then pay them from that without it being noticed ? trying to think of new ways from the good old gift card to another account trick
Paypal would limit your account and you'd have to go through all the security checks. Paypal also do not allow more than 1 account and are VERY strict with this now. If you somehow did get past this, large amounts of money going in and out would create attention and if you were creating disputes, this would also cause an issue.
But I do not believe amazon can see details such as cards on PayPal accounts, they would just see that a PayPal account is linked and the name of the owner.
you wouldnt file a dispute with them tho? youd get a straight refund from amazon also there is other forums of se as double dip which can help people as i prefer double dips as i feel like they are safer even tho they are not the best option i think it helps long term
RE: New amazon account? - mothered - 07-17-2018
(07-17-2018, 04:15 PM)izzy Wrote:(07-17-2018, 04:05 PM)mothered Wrote: Further to the above post, leave nothing to chance.
Change every detail possible, leaving very little room for exposure. Never underestimate Amazon's capacity In Identifying and linking similarities between accounts.
as you are an experienced member something cam into my mind which made me curious is it not possible so spam different paypal accounts fill them with money and by from amazon or would they be able to see the card linked to paypal for example he makes a new paypal (new name details ) and then pay them from that without it being noticed ? trying to think of new ways from the good old gift card to another account trick
@Qlova has summed It up nicely.
RE: New amazon account? - Qlova - 07-17-2018
(07-17-2018, 04:25 PM)izzy Wrote:(07-17-2018, 04:20 PM)Qlova Wrote: I can use a VPN but I do not have any other payment method to use apart from my card or other PayPal accounts from my household, as mine was suspended. Any suggestions?
(07-17-2018, 04:15 PM)izzy Wrote: as you are an experienced member something cam into my mind which made me curious is it not possible so spam different paypal accounts fill them with money and by from amazon or would they be able to see the card linked to paypal for example he makes a new paypal (new name details ) and then pay them from that without it being noticed ? trying to think of new ways from the good old gift card to another account trick
Paypal would limit your account and you'd have to go through all the security checks. Paypal also do not allow more than 1 account and are VERY strict with this now. If you somehow did get past this, large amounts of money going in and out would create attention and if you were creating disputes, this would also cause an issue.
But I do not believe amazon can see details such as cards on PayPal accounts, they would just see that a PayPal account is linked and the name of the owner.
you wouldnt file a dispute with them tho? youd get a straight refund from amazon also there is other forums of se as double dip which can help people as i prefer double dips as i feel like they are safer even tho they are not the best option i think it helps long term
Even without disputing claims, PayPal would be onto you straight away and your account(s) would end up suspended.
What is double dipping? I thought this just meant refunding from the same company more than once?
RE: New amazon account? - izzy - 07-17-2018
(07-17-2018, 10:33 PM)Qlova Wrote:(07-17-2018, 04:25 PM)izzy Wrote:(07-17-2018, 04:20 PM)Qlova Wrote: I can use a VPN but I do not have any other payment method to use apart from my card or other PayPal accounts from my household, as mine was suspended. Any suggestions?
Paypal would limit your account and you'd have to go through all the security checks. Paypal also do not allow more than 1 account and are VERY strict with this now. If you somehow did get past this, large amounts of money going in and out would create attention and if you were creating disputes, this would also cause an issue.
But I do not believe amazon can see details such as cards on PayPal accounts, they would just see that a PayPal account is linked and the name of the owner.
you wouldnt file a dispute with them tho? youd get a straight refund from amazon also there is other forums of se as double dip which can help people as i prefer double dips as i feel like they are safer even tho they are not the best option i think it helps long term
Even without disputing claims, PayPal would be onto you straight away and your account(s) would end up suspended.
What is double dipping? I thought this just meant refunding from the same company more than once?
double dipping is same process as an se but when they ask for a refund or product again you say you want the item so they send the item away that way paypal wont notice because there would be no claims? and then you sell both to make money (yes its less money than getting a refund and selling but its the ideas and methods im trying to think of)
RE: New amazon account? - Auftot - 07-17-2018
I'm not sure if it would work but if you wanted to reuse a blacklisted address you could go into a live chat and say something along the lines of: "Hey I just moved into this new house and I cannot seem to order to my house for some reason?" And at it off as you just got a new house and are not related to the previous owner in anyway. However,this would only work once most likely and every other detail would have to be different. If you had a older Amazon account registered to a different address then added the new address that may work better but it's method is probably too much work when you could just use a drop. I also haven't personally tried this it was just an idea sorry if it's not too good.