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Beginner Question - Generalpiggle - 01-09-2016
Recently I have been interested in getting into the vast world of hacking and while I haven't decided on some area in particular to focus in on I was wondering what ways are there for someone who knows a bit of coding (like myself) to further their knowledge and then get into hacking? Many thanks!
RE: Beginner Question - The Real Slim Shady - 01-10-2016
(01-09-2016, 11:46 PM)Generalpiggle Wrote: I was wondering what ways are there for someone who knows a bit of coding (like myself) to further their knowledge and then get into hacking?
Keep learning.
RE: Beginner Question - insidious - 01-10-2016
(01-09-2016, 11:46 PM)Generalpiggle Wrote: Recently I have been interested in getting into the vast world of hacking and while I haven't decided on some area in particular to focus in on I was wondering what ways are there for someone who knows a bit of coding (like myself) to further their knowledge and then get into hacking? Many thanks!
Learn everything you can, look into anything that interests you. Eventually you'll find something you spend more time on than other things and you can make that a focus.
Maybe start with a book like "Hacking the Art of Exploitation" as an introduction. I know you can get the PDF online for free.
RE: Beginner Question - pvnk - 01-10-2016
A byte of advice.
Find a focus first.
RE: Beginner Question - meow - 01-10-2016
This is the best thing a beginner could ever read - http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html
(01-10-2016, 06:12 PM)insidious15 Wrote: Maybe start with a book like "Hacking the Art of Exploitation" as an introduction. I know you can get the PDF online for free.
No. I have a hard copy of that book and it specifically says you should have some background knowledge before attempting to learn everything included in it, which I agree with completely, because it simply isn't a beginner's book.
RE: Beginner Question - The Real Slim Shady - 01-10-2016
There is an educational model called the four stages of competence. I won't go into detail - but essentially to learn something you go from unskilled/incompetent to fully competent.
True/Real Hacking is the evolution of that model. Once you fully understand a concept and are fully competent, it is human nature to try to modify or repurpose it. So when people ask "How do I learn to hack". The simple answer is, you don't.
You learn, and by the virtue of learning and becoming competent, fully understanding the subject, you naturally become a hacker. Sure, I can show you a few SQL tricks to bypass a web login, or how to run a tool that will run a MITM attack - but thats no more hacking than showing someone how to change the oil on their car makes them a mechanic.
RE: Beginner Question - Generalpiggle - 01-10-2016
Fair enough, I downloaded some books to start myself off and hopefully that'll give me a stronger base to start on. Thanks for the tips!
RE: Beginner Question - pvnk - 01-10-2016
(01-10-2016, 08:43 PM)Generalpiggle Wrote: Fair enough, I downloaded some books to start myself off and hopefully that'll give me a stronger base to start on. Thanks for the tips!
Money on the table that those books will stay unread for years to come.
RE: Beginner Question - meow - 01-10-2016
(01-10-2016, 08:43 PM)Generalpiggle Wrote: Fair enough, I downloaded some books to start myself off and hopefully that'll give me a stronger base to start on. Thanks for the tips!
That's fine, but embed this into your brain - just books and courses won't do it. With books comes knowledge, but that isn't enough to make you a "hacker". Knowledge is the first step to unconscious competence, the second is experience.
RE: Beginner Question - Generalpiggle - 01-10-2016
(01-10-2016, 08:47 PM)meow Wrote: That's fine, but embed this into your brain - just books and courses won't do it. With books comes knowledge, but that isn't enough to make you a "hacker". Knowledge is the first step to unconscious competence, the second is experience.
I will certainly be sure to remember that, I'm really just using these books to get myself aware to terminology and more basic concepts and then begin to invest myself more with the experience portion.