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No RAT Works on Windows 8 ? - Blackshadowbutt - 08-07-2015

Hi , Hope you all will be fine..
I am in a little trouble in configuring my RAT .
First i want to Mention some points, all of my ports are forwarded properly , and No-ip is setup-ed .
The problem is , if i use any of the client , ie , cybergate , NJ , or even old blackshade, it does not connects with any server running over all my test Machines . but if i shift same client with same settings on windows 7 pc , The same server works perfectly ,
I also want to mention that , Server works perfectly on windows 8 ,,,,means my windows 8 is slaved properly but if i use a client on windows 8 and infect any other pc client (on Windows 8) never connects to any of my slave, Also , if i use same server and infect myself with that server (Server on Windows 8 , Client on Windows 8) that server connects perfectly , but the same server never work when i run it on a separate machine running windows 8 , 7 , or xp .note that i am testing it in a test environment , slaves are not virtual machines , they are separate laptops , and some are on the same LAN and some are on another LAN, and all LANs have internet working properly ,
can anyone points me what i am missing here ? why it is happening and what is its solution ?


RE: No RAT Works on Windows 8 ? - mothered - 08-07-2015

Have you tried It via a clean Installation of Windows 8, with nothing Installed other than drivers?

Meaning, only the bare necessities to run Windows 8 and nothing else. I'm just trying to establish whether there's something (firewall, proxy etc) that may be precluding the RAT (client) from functioning.


RE: No RAT Works on Windows 8 ? - Oni - 08-08-2015

(08-08-2015, 10:43 AM)Kaori Wrote: First: Half of the "RATs" you mentioned are very outdated and most likely don't work with newer OS'. Why not try and make your own? It'll teach you a lot more than using others pre-made "RAT."

Second: Why are you even ratting, I didn't even know it was a thing anymore until you brought it up. I thought that phase of minecraft kids were over. Nevertheless, I still highly suggest trying to create your own, as you'll learn WAY more valuable skills than ratting.

Regretfully, we have a section for it, so discussion is still permitted. Everyone starts somewhere.


RE: No RAT Works on Windows 8 ? - Blackshadowbutt - 08-15-2015

(08-08-2015, 10:43 AM)Panty Wrote: First: Half of the "RATs" you mentioned are very outdated and most likely don't work with newer OS'. Why not try and make your own? It'll teach you a lot more than using others pre-made "RAT."

Second: Why are you even ratting, I didn't even know it was a thing anymore until you brought it up. I thought that phase of minecraft kids were over. Nevertheless, I still highly suggest trying to create your own, as you'll learn WAY more valuable skills than ratting.

Thanks Panty ,,,,Very valuable comment,,,as a learner i never find it bad if someone tries to point me to right direction.... a little story behind all this RAT thing...., Keylogger RATS, BOTS, Crypters, that's what a Moderate Security interested student can pay attention to . Penetration testing , or other network related Security research is out of my reach as i am too much busy with my Master Thesis that is in totally different domain . i did started from Keyloggers. yea ..the old ardamax . . thats how it was my first attempted to know the hacking world. well, ,, then i searched for FUD word ,,,i realize that ,,,the only way to achieve is to code your own .. .well ... creating a FUD keylogger opened many many interesting things that, how antivirus can statically detect a sig from a file and how some API's combined together can alarm an antivirus ..... Well surprisingly my Own Created keylogger is still 1/40 after even one year.. .. RATs. Keylogger can be a valuable skills when you are investigating a miner group of people ... I was used to with RATs long ago , and then i stopped and remain busy in life as an andriod and web developer . ... now suddenly i needed to investigate a group of peoples in my area Who are doing some serious crime like blackmailing by posting privately taken pictures of some girls or something like that. . . i know the rage of people that i can investigate but we don't have any idea who is actually doing this. . .using keylogger can do this but that will not give a proof ... and the only thing left in my toolkit is a RAT . . .so i started building a keylogger for andriod and looked into my old inventory (HDD, test LAB virtual machines Smile )
When i setup-ed everything i came to realize that nothing is working on windows 8 ........ i was just carious that why it is not working ...is it windows 8 or if it is only my windows 8 ...that was the whole story ...i know some of the RATs are very old. . ... these days i have time..and i am looking into crypters ...i don't know how much time will take me to understand the RunPE concept but i do know ...that i will take time. .. going for a complete new RAT will be totally out of scope . .. if i can find a working solution for modern windows editions . Now, if you guys exactly know that what is the best solution that will works on windows 8 with CAM, File Grabbing and keylogger or taking screen shots. . . (i am not talking about FUD...)..Just point me the method or the name of software i am willing to look into it... Smile thanks again everyone for encouraging comments.. . Smile

(08-07-2015, 02:23 PM)mothered Wrote: Have you tried It via a clean Installation of Windows 8, with nothing Installed other than drivers?

Meaning, only the bare necessities to run Windows 8 and nothing else. I'm just trying to establish whether there's something (firewall, proxy etc) that may be precluding the RAT (client) from functioning.


No ... i have not done that .. .but i have switched off my AV's firewall an have even uninstalled It...
No proxy is running nor do i use any VPN... The only thing is in my mind .do Windows 8 have its own fireWall ? maybe when turning off my AV's firewall is trigging the windows own firewall ?

And the AV that i am using is ESET


RE: No RAT Works on Windows 8 ? - Equinox - 08-15-2015

(08-15-2015, 02:05 PM)Blackshadowbutt Wrote: Thanks Panty ,,,,Very valuable comment,,,as a learner i never find it bad if someone tries to point me to right direction.... a little story behind all this RAT thing...., Keylogger RATS, BOTS, Crypters, that's what a Moderate Security interested student can pay attention to . Penetration testing , or other network related Security research is out of my reach as i am too much busy with my Master Thesis that is in totally different domain . i did started from Keyloggers. yea ..the old ardamax . . thats how it was my first attempted to know the hacking world. well, ,, then i searched for FUD word ,,,i realize that ,,,the only way to achieve is to code your own .. .well ... creating a FUD keylogger opened many many interesting things that, how antivirus can statically detect a sig from a file and how some API's combined together can alarm an antivirus ..... Well surprisingly my Own Created keylogger is still 1/40 after even one year.. .. RATs. Keylogger can be a valuable skills when you are investigating a miner group of people ... I was used to with RATs long ago , and then i stopped and remain busy in life as an andriod and web developer . ... now suddenly i needed to investigate a group of peoples in my area Who are doing some serious crime like blackmailing by posting privately taken pictures of some girls or something like that. . . i know the rage of people that i can investigate but we don't have any idea who is actually doing this. . .using keylogger can do this but that will not give a proof ... and the only thing left in my toolkit is a RAT . . .so i started building a keylogger for andriod and looked into my old inventory (HDD, test LAB virtual machines Smile )
When i setup-ed everything i came to realize that nothing is working on windows 8 ........ i was just carious that why it is not working ...is it windows 8 or if it is only my windows 8 ...that was the whole story ...i know some of the RATs are very old. . ... these days i have time..and i am looking into crypters ...i don't know how much time will take me to understand the RunPE concept but i do know ...that i will take time. .. going for a complete new RAT will be totally out of scope . .. if i can find a working solution for modern windows editions . Now, if you guys exactly know that what is the best solution that will works on windows 8 with CAM, File Grabbing and keylogger or taking screen shots. . . (i am not talking about FUD...)..Just point me the method or the name of software i am willing to look into it... Smile thanks again everyone for encouraging comments.. . Smile



No ... i have not done that .. .but i have switched off my AV's firewall an have even uninstalled It...
No proxy is running nor do i use any VPN... The only thing is in my mind .do Windows 8 have its own fireWall ? maybe when turning off my AV's firewall is trigging the windows own firewall ?

And the AV that i am using is ESET

This, kids, is why you should never skip English 1.


RE: No RAT Works on Windows 8 ? - Blackshadowbutt - 08-16-2015

(08-15-2015, 07:23 PM)Stocking Wrote: This, kids, is why you should never skip English 1.

hahahaha,, Thanks,, but don't try to be a dad ,,,
keep in mind this is an international forum and no one give a shit to English ...unless he conveys the message.i hope , these kiddie lines are now understandable . why can't you just be on point and contribute something instead of giving me a morel lesson ?


RE: No RAT Works on Windows 8 ? - Equinox - 08-16-2015

(08-16-2015, 11:31 AM)Blackshadowbutt Wrote: hahahaha,, Thanks,, but don't try to be a dad ,,,
keep in mind this is an international forum and no one give a shit to English ...unless he conveys the message.i hope , these kiddie lines are now understandable . why can't you just be on point and contribute something instead of giving me a morel lesson ?

Maybe I should be telling you that, you've got only three posts, and a single thread. You shouldn't be bringing up the need for other users to contribute. And in what way was my post a moral lesson?


RE: No RAT Works on Windows 8 ? - Equinox - 08-16-2015

(08-16-2015, 11:48 AM)Panty Wrote: Would anyone be kind enough to contribute the brain cells I lost from this?

You might want to look in another thread, because you definitely won't find any here. We all lost all of ours trying to read this thread.


RE: No RAT Works on Windows 8 ? - Satan - 08-16-2015

(08-16-2015, 11:31 AM)Blackshadowbutt Wrote: hahahaha,, Thanks,, but don't try to be a dad ,,,
keep in mind this is an international forum and no one give a shit to English ...unless he conveys the message.i hope , these kiddie lines are now understandable . why can't you just be on point and contribute something instead of giving me a morel lesson ?

"Your posts must also be legible, have decent grammar, and be in English."

Taken from the rules of the forum.

"no one give a shit to English".

Actually, if you can't type out something we can't reasonably read, we're going to all care, beyond it just being against the rules.


RE: No RAT Works on Windows 8 ? - Blackshadowbutt - 08-16-2015

(08-16-2015, 12:09 PM)Jinx Wrote: "Your posts must also be legible, have decent grammar, and be in English."

Taken from the rules of the forum.

"no one give a shit to English".

Actually, if you can't type out something we can't reasonably read, we're going to all care, beyond it just being against the rules.

if something is not in good manner ...you always have a good way to point it..and beside all this,,, everything i wrote ,is in English and its not against the rule ...and don't tell me like i am in English grammar class. bear this please,, we all write English with a little mistake ..unless we are native.