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NSA spying is okay? - Singularity - 12-27-2013

Quote:A federal judge in New York has ruled that the National Security Agency's mass collection of phone data is constitutional, rejecting a challenge brought by the American Civil Liberties Union.

U.S. District Judge William Pauley's decision came just 11 days after a district judge in Washington ruled the opposite – that the agency's "almost Orwellian" surveillance program is likely unconstitutional. The ruling raises the likelihood that the issue will be settled by the Supreme Court.

In his 54-page decision, Pauley said there is no evidence that the government has used any of the data collected for purposes other than "investigating and disrupting" terror attacks.

“Technology allowed al-Qaida to operate decentralized and plot international terrorist attacks remotely. The bulk telephony metadata collection program represents the government's counter-punch: connecting fragmented and fleeting communications to re-construct and eliminate al-Qaida's terror network,” he wrote.

The judge granted the government's motion to dismiss the case and denied the ACLU's motion for a preliminary injunction.

The ACLU is reportedly planning to appeal the decision, saying the ruling is "extremely disappointing" and plays down the surveillance program's privacy implications.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/12/27/idUS334263096020131227

So now it goes to the supreme court..

/discuss


RE: NSA spying is okay? - Eternal Minds - 12-27-2013

Honestly, why should you be concerned with them spying if you're not doing any wrong?


RE: NSA spying is okay? - Singularity - 12-27-2013

(12-27-2013, 11:24 PM)Eternal Minds Wrote: Honestly, why should you be concerned with them spying if you're not doing any wrong?

Well honestly I would be okay with it if half of our laws weren't so bogus.
I do some illegal things that affect myself and no one else around me.


RE: NSA spying is okay? - Saikou - 12-27-2013

Ahem... Al-Qaeda*, rueters.
I personally believe that the NSA spying is definitely unconstitutional and violates the 1st and 4th amendments.

1st Amendment:
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

4th Amendment:
"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."


RE: NSA spying is okay? - Hey - 12-27-2013

They ruled it Unconstitutional...
http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/16236202-dc-judge-rules-nsa-surveillance-legal-rejecting-previous-unconstitutional-finding


RE: NSA spying is okay? - Nefarious - 12-28-2013

I thought they ruled it Unconstitutional?
Spying is not okay, it violates our rights.


RE: NSA spying is okay? - Tr@ck3d - 12-28-2013

Its not okay, but I dont think I'll be spied on since I'm from Denmark.


RE: NSA spying is okay? - Silvinex - 12-28-2013

(12-27-2013, 11:24 PM)Eternal Minds Wrote: Honestly, why should you be concerned with them spying if you're not doing any wrong?

Because privacy is a natural human right.


RE: NSA spying is okay? - wander_n_wonder - 01-03-2014

Whether or not you're doing anything wrong, spying is not right. It's a violation of human rights. I don't think there should be any exceptions to this. I do hope this case will be resolved accordingly.


RE: NSA spying is okay? - Feat - 01-03-2014

Honestly it is wrong but at the same time there is some logic behind it. If you ask me they just abused their powers and that's all it really is.