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Amazon DNA or EB/MEB - iPhone 15 Pro Max or S24 Ultra - Jojo1980 - 05-16-2024
As per title, looking to either DNA or EB/MEB the 15 Pro Max or the S24 Ultra.
The account is 14 months old, with over 200 legit orders.
3x DNAs completed so far over the last 12 months, all under £100 with no much investigation and quick refund issued.
Last DNA was in March 2024.
What would you suggest? The 15 Pro Max or the 24 Ultra?
What's the best way to go about it? DNA or EB/MEB?
Based in the UK.
I'm worried in case they become difficult snd start asking for a PR.
Any thoughts?
Thank you in advance.
RE: Amazon DNA or EB/MEB - iPhone 15 Pro Max or S24 Ultra - HeardIt - 05-16-2024
they are going to give you a OTP for it, so DNA is out of the equation. you'll also be asked to get a PR, however they probably won't issue one as it's a civil matter and not criminal. so you are basically going to have to argue it out with Amazon about EB
RE: Amazon DNA or EB/MEB - iPhone 15 Pro Max or S24 Ultra - Spatialize - 05-16-2024
(05-16-2024, 09:30 PM)Jojo1980 Wrote: As per title, looking to either DNA or EB/MEB the 15 Pro Max or the S24 Ultra.
The account is 14 months old, with over 200 legit orders.
3x DNAs completed so far over the last 12 months, all under £100 with no much investigation and quick refund issued.
Last DNA was in March 2024.
What would you suggest? The 15 Pro Max or the 24 Ultra?
What's the best way to go about it? DNA or EB/MEB?
Based in the UK.
I'm worried in case they become difficult snd start asking for a PR.
Any thoughts?
Thank you in advance.
From what I gather on this forum, amazon does not like to see any suspicious DNA activities on an account, even if its 1 se. I would say if youre going to DNA on amazon, make sure its a big order because that could be your last SE. It also seems like apple products in particular are being heavily scrutinized by amazon and their return facilities. My suggestion - I wouldnt do it considering you already have 3 se's on the account, but if you would, just be extra careful.
RE: Amazon DNA or EB/MEB - iPhone 15 Pro Max or S24 Ultra - talrodil - 05-16-2024
(05-16-2024, 09:30 PM)Jojo1980 Wrote: As per title, looking to either DNA or EB/MEB the 15 Pro Max or the S24 Ultra.
What would you suggest? The 15 Pro Max or the 24 Ultra?
What's the best way to go about it? DNA or EB/MEB?
Based in the UK.
I'm worried in case they become difficult snd start asking for a PR.
Amazon UK is very likely (but not 100%) to blacklist the devices, especially Samsung. Afaik Samsung UK is really tidy with their blacklisting efforts. I think Apple UK is also, but I can't remember for sure. But if that doesn't bother you (if you're selling outside the UK) then no worries.
Sealed box is out of the question with Amazon. If you can sealedbox a local shop, that could work, but I don't know if shops like Currys are checking sealed boxes.
MEB/EB these are too heavy.
DNA would be fine, but the phones will get blacklisted and the carrier will ask for OTP. If you're okay with cheating the OTP and selling abroad, then it's a good SE. Don't worry about PR. It's a standard procedure for filing, as (supposedly) a package theft has occured.
FTID is something that people will suggest here, but personally I avoid it so I won't recommend it.
In my opinion, SE something else and use that to legit buy a new phone.
(05-16-2024, 09:39 PM)Spatialize Wrote: From what I gather on this forum, amazon does not like to see any suspicious DNA activities on an account, even if its 1 se. I would say if youre going to DNA on amazon, make sure its a big order because that could be your last SE. It also seems like apple products in particular are being heavily scrutinized by amazon and their return facilities. My suggestion - I wouldnt do it considering you already have 3 se's on the account, but if you would, just be extra careful.
As long as there's legitimate activity as well, and 6 items/6 weeks between every SE, you're fine.
But of course if it's newest Apple iPhone DNA after DNA, well yeah the red flags are gonna start swinging.
RE: Amazon DNA or EB/MEB - iPhone 15 Pro Max or S24 Ultra - Jojo1980 - 05-16-2024
Thank you all for the suggestions.
Regarding OTP...I have heard that if marking the package as a gift, there is no requirement for OTP.
Is that correct?
Given that the low rate of success, is there any other retailers with a high rate for the DNA or EB to work?
RE: Amazon DNA or EB/MEB - iPhone 15 Pro Max or S24 Ultra - talrodil - 05-16-2024
(05-16-2024, 11:23 PM)Jojo1980 Wrote: Thank you all for the suggestions.
Regarding OTP...I have heard that if marking the package as a gift, there is no requirement for OTP.
Is that correct?
You still have to receive the parcel, so you still have to go through the same procedures.
(05-16-2024, 11:23 PM)Jojo1980 Wrote: Given that the low rate of success, is there any other retailers with a high rate for the DNA or EB to work?
Please do some cursory research on the topic. DNA is not dependent on the retailer.
The package weight will remain the same regardless of retailer.
RE: Amazon DNA or EB/MEB - iPhone 15 Pro Max or S24 Ultra - kronkite2 - 06-13-2024
(05-16-2024, 09:39 PM)Spatialize Wrote:(05-16-2024, 09:30 PM)Jojo1980 Wrote: As per title, looking to either DNA or EB/MEB the 15 Pro Max or the S24 Ultra.
The account is 14 months old, with over 200 legit orders.
3x DNAs completed so far over the last 12 months, all under £100 with no much investigation and quick refund issued.
Last DNA was in March 2024.
What would you suggest? The 15 Pro Max or the 24 Ultra?
What's the best way to go about it? DNA or EB/MEB?
Based in the UK.
I'm worried in case they become difficult snd start asking for a PR.
Any thoughts?
Thank you in advance.
From what I gather on this forum, amazon does not like to see any suspicious DNA activities on an account, even if its 1 se. I would say if youre going to DNA on amazon, make sure its a big order because that could be your last SE. It also seems like apple products in particular are being heavily scrutinized by amazon and their return facilities. My suggestion - I wouldnt do it considering you already have 3 se's on the account, but if you would, just be extra careful.
I've done 4 DNAs on my prime account. It gets increasingly harder, sure, but it's not impossible. You might have to file a police report though