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[Linux] Debian 12 "bookworm"! - ConcernedCitizen - 06-18-2023
I highly recommend that you try out Debian 12. I have been using it for 20 hours and I already fell in love with it.
So...yeah.
Debian 12:
No more 100% free
Your cards and CPUs might have issues. It enables the non-free-firmware repo by default if the installer recognizes that you need it. You can still disable it, so you're not forced into non-free software. Non-free packages that don't conform and firmware drivers, etc. may be wanted for utilizing the full potential of your CPU, so keep that in mind.![[Image: non-free-firmware.png]](https://i.ibb.co/d0QTp80/non-free-firmware.png)
This is amazing for a desktop. The installer looks like shit as usual, but it's what you need not what you want, and it's fairly user-friendly. See the package screenshots if you're curious of the packages available for the distro.
Full release notes: https://www.debian.org/releases/bookworm/amd64/release-notes/
In conclusion, you won't be getting all the up-to-date software, but you will be getting the best available in, e.g., Debian trixie - again, with issues. I had zero problems upgrading to the newest kernel. KDE is still the "GOAT", with KDE 5.27 installed by default when you enable it in the installer. In short, you will be able to use whatever desktop flavor and kernel version you want and still have support for your video cards, but you may need to bite the bullet and install the non-free repos.
It also comes with easy support for snaps and flatpaks in one CLI command with less breakage this time around.
Install whatever you want, but expect some issues with the breaking changes in enabling dev kernels and DEs. By now, we should all be familiar with this anyway!
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RE: [Linux] Debian 12 "bookworm"! - Oni - 06-20-2023
Been using Debian 15+ years. Highly recommend.
RE: [Linux] Debian 12 "bookworm"! - ColoredT - 06-21-2023
Why would you recommend it instead of Linux ? I guess depending on the activity and what you would like to do with the system, but anyway, I am curious !
RE: [Linux] Debian 12 "bookworm"! - ConcernedCitizen - 06-21-2023
(06-21-2023, 05:59 PM)ColoredT Wrote: Why would you recommend it instead of Linux ?
This is Debian Linux. But to answer your question, I use Debian because I can customize anything I want, I'm more comfortable using a CLI, and I don't have to deal with all the BS Windows gives. I can also flash firmware I trust.
RE: [Linux] Debian 12 "bookworm"! - Oni - 06-21-2023
(06-21-2023, 05:59 PM)ColoredT Wrote: Why would you recommend it instead of Linux ? I guess depending on the activity and what you would like to do with the system, but anyway, I am curious !
Debian is one of the oldest Linux distros, originally released in 1993. Ubuntu is even based on Debian.
RE: [Linux] Debian 12 "bookworm"! - ColoredT - 06-21-2023
Of course, but I've never used Debian before, I started on Kali. Even if it's based on the same system, I wanted to know why you would prefer to go on Debian instead of Kali.
Maybe I am wrong about what I say, correct me if I am wrong.
RE: [Linux] Debian 12 "bookworm"! - Oni - 06-22-2023
(06-22-2023, 03:15 AM)yokozuna06 Wrote: You're using Kali as a main OS? I keep mine as a VM to spin up but can't use it day to day.
Kali is just a modified version of Debian.
RE: [Linux] Debian 12 "bookworm"! - ConcernedCitizen - 06-25-2023
(06-22-2023, 03:15 AM)yokozuna06 Wrote: You're using Kali as a main OS? I keep mine as a VM to spin up but can't use it day to day.
Sorry for the late reply. I hope you wouldn't use Kali as your daily driver. You probably can, but it isn't something for an inexperienced user of Linux.
I would recommend learning Ubuntu before diving directly into Debian, as there is a lot of commands you have to run in a CLI/terminal that can break things.
Good luck with whatever you choose and most importantly, have fun!
RE: [Linux] Debian 12 "bookworm"! - ColoredT - 06-26-2023
(06-25-2023, 03:36 PM)ConcernedCitizen Wrote:(06-22-2023, 03:15 AM)yokozuna06 Wrote: You're using Kali as a main OS? I keep mine as a VM to spin up but can't use it day to day.
Sorry for the late reply. I hope you wouldn't use Kali as your daily driver. You probably can, but it isn't something for an inexperienced user of Linux.
I would recommend learning Ubuntu before diving directly into Debian, as there is a lot of commands you have to run in a CLI/terminal that can break things.
Good luck with whatever you choose and most importantly, have fun!
Sorry for the late reply too ! No of course, Kali is not my main, even if I was very experienced in Kali, I wouldn't use it daily. But I wanted to say thanks for the post, because I didn't know a lot of thing around it, and you know what... I moving to it for daily use. I tended to use Tail or Kali (for specific case or to learn) or the classic Windows shit to do some gaming.
Anyway, I will look forward to Debian 😀
EDIT : It was also for @Oni. My bad.