(02-20-2023, 02:39 PM)J23GBP Wrote: If you're worried about getting arrested for Social Engineering then you shouldn't be doing it. You have to remember that what you're going to do is illegal, and with that is the possibility of consequences.

(02-20-2023, 02:50 PM)Craigtheboss Wrote:

(02-20-2023, 02:39 PM)J23GBP Wrote: If you're worried about getting arrested for Social Engineering then you shouldn't be doing it. You have to remember that what you're going to do is illegal, and with that is the possibility of consequences.

I appreciate the reply but this is not what I was asking , I was asking if anyone had any experience or stories related to this

(02-20-2023, 02:50 PM)Craigtheboss Wrote: I was asking if anyone had any experience or stories related to this

(02-20-2023, 03:30 PM)mothered Wrote:

(02-20-2023, 02:50 PM)Craigtheboss Wrote: I was asking if anyone had any experience or stories related to this

Plenty of stories online, of which this Is one of them:

https://www.businessinsider.com/22-year-old-mud-filled-boxes-scam-amazon-370000-2019-8

(02-20-2023, 03:08 PM)kyungchul Wrote:

(02-20-2023, 02:50 PM)Craigtheboss Wrote:

(02-20-2023, 02:39 PM)J23GBP Wrote: If you're worried about getting arrested for Social Engineering then you shouldn't be doing it. You have to remember that what you're going to do is illegal, and with that is the possibility of consequences.

I appreciate the reply but this is not what I was asking , I was asking if anyone had any experience or stories related to this

Quite frankly, their response was a good answer to your question.

"What are the chances of the police getting involved" - no one can answer this with any real certainty or statistics. There are far too many variables at play in any given SEing situation with any given SE-er to draw conclusions that will apply to every situation.

It is always possible that law enforcement may - or can - get involved in some capacity, and that is because, like has been said, SEing - as you're describing here, anyway - is illegal.
Crimes committed always have the capacity to be dealt with by law enforcement, that's just the nature of the game. If you have to ask "what're the chances of the police getting involved" you are probably better off not SEing, because you are asking the wrong questions, and you're looking at it from a far too "simple" angle - it's not "what are the chances" it's "how do I dial in my OPSEC so I am as far disconnected as possible from these activities, should someone look into them."

Has law enforcement ever gotten involved in relation to SEing? Sure they have.
But for what reason, in connection to what specifically, how they were tipped off/came to find it, what law enforcement agency specifically, what charges were brought/what the eventual outcome was, etc. are all variables that make it hard to look at it and apply it to every SEing situation.
I would hazard a guess that a good deal of cases where LE has gotten involved regarding SEing, the person SEing was likely not being very "smart" or "careful" and didn't have their OPSEC locked down properly. Or perhaps other crimes were involved, and the SEing activity was connected later.

If you're being "safe" and doing everything "smart" the chances should be relatively low, but that is assuming you're covering all your tracks, being careful in the right ways, and don't find yourself with a watchful eye on you for any other reasons.

To speak to your exact wording - "possibly being arrested when performing SE like dna or eb" - it is extremely unlikely you would ever find yourself being arrested when performing DNA/EB. As in, no, an officer of the law is not going to bust into your home while you're live-chatting with Walmart and cart you off - assuming they didn't already have a reason to be coming for you, and the timing was just hilariously poor, of course.
While the chances are very low that moderate SEing activity like this will ever come back on you or catch the eyes of "the powers that be" it is still very much a possibility to consider. Just because it "doesn't happen often" that we here of, and seems "highly unlikely" based on what we know of law enforcement and how hard it would be to connect a lot of these SEing activities, at the end of the day it is still a crime, and there is always a risk involved. The second you think "well, the odds are so slim, this is pretty safe, I don't have to really worry" is the second you slip up just enough to put yourself on someone's radar.

(02-20-2023, 05:52 PM)Ashitbag Wrote: There are no predictable odds on this, it is a dice roll. The more you do it the more heat you draw. If you don't finesse it carefully enough and the odds it comes back to bite you in the ass increase significantly. SEing is not foolproof. People do this at their own risk and are willing to risk the danger to take a chance. If you have the balls to do it then try it. But you should be operating with the knowledge that this is not legal and not something you can do with impunity. If you are a scared little bitch: play it safe and pay for your shit like everybody else. If you lack fucks to give like so many of us on here: do what you think you can get away with, but always be aware of the hazards. Man up or opt out. Your choice.

(02-20-2023, 03:08 PM)kyungchul Wrote:

(02-20-2023, 02:50 PM)Craigtheboss Wrote:

(02-20-2023, 02:39 PM)J23GBP Wrote: If you're worried about getting arrested for Social Engineering then you shouldn't be doing it. You have to remember that what you're going to do is illegal, and with that is the possibility of consequences.

I appreciate the reply but this is not what I was asking , I was asking if anyone had any experience or stories related to this

Quite frankly, their response was a good answer to your question.

"What are the chances of the police getting involved" - no one can answer this with any real certainty or statistics. There are far too many variables at play in any given SEing situation with any given SE-er to draw conclusions that will apply to every situation.

It is always possible that law enforcement may - or can - get involved in some capacity, and that is because, like has been said, SEing - as you're describing here, anyway - is illegal.
Crimes committed always have the capacity to be dealt with by law enforcement, that's just the nature of the game. If you have to ask "what're the chances of the police getting involved" you are probably better off not SEing, because you are asking the wrong questions, and you're looking at it from a far too "simple" angle - it's not "what are the chances" it's "how do I dial in my OPSEC so I am as far disconnected as possible from these activities, should someone look into them."

Has law enforcement ever gotten involved in relation to SEing? Sure they have.
But for what reason, in connection to what specifically, how they were tipped off/came to find it, what law enforcement agency specifically, what charges were brought/what the eventual outcome was, etc. are all variables that make it hard to look at it and apply it to every SEing situation.
I would hazard a guess that a good deal of cases where LE has gotten involved regarding SEing, the person SEing was likely not being very "smart" or "careful" and didn't have their OPSEC locked down properly. Or perhaps other crimes were involved, and the SEing activity was connected later.

If you're being "safe" and doing everything "smart" the chances should be relatively low, but that is assuming you're covering all your tracks, being careful in the right ways, and don't find yourself with a watchful eye on you for any other reasons.

To speak to your exact wording - "possibly being arrested when performing SE like dna or eb" - it is extremely unlikely you would ever find yourself being arrested when performing DNA/EB. As in, no, an officer of the law is not going to bust into your home while you're live-chatting with Walmart and cart you off - assuming they didn't already have a reason to be coming for you, and the timing was just hilariously poor, of course.
While the chances are very low that moderate SEing activity like this will ever come back on you or catch the eyes of "the powers that be" it is still very much a possibility to consider. Just because it "doesn't happen often" that we here of, and seems "highly unlikely" based on what we know of law enforcement and how hard it would be to connect a lot of these SEing activities, at the end of the day it is still a crime, and there is always a risk involved. The second you think "well, the odds are so slim, this is pretty safe, I don't have to really worry" is the second you slip up just enough to put yourself on someone's radar.