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New user here but worried! - Jimjhn - 11-05-2022
Hi people newbie here (UK)
I was really wanting to know if companies ever rebill months after you've been refunded? I've done about 10 refunds(always using a guy who runs a group doing it) but last year I done adidas and ended up getting a letter months later wanting the money for the order as adidas never recieved it.
But I've been a bit worried recently about any of the other orders I've done with different companies just rebilling me after refund or being investigated or something? I've not done any for about 4/5 months is there any chance any them could come back to bite me?
RE: New user here but worried! - mothered - 11-05-2022
Moved from Introductions to Social engineering.
Welcome to our community.
Quote:I was really wanting to know if companies ever rebill months after you've been refunded?Impossible to say without knowing the events of the SEs.
Quote:last year I done adidas and ended up getting a letter months later wanting the money for the order as adidas never recieved it.Which method was used? The so-called FTID garbage or Its LIT variant?
Quote:I've been a bit worried recently about any of the other orders I've done with different companies just rebilling me after refund or being investigated or something?As said, can't say without having knowledge of what your SEs Involved.
RE: New user here but worried! - Jimjhn - 11-05-2022
Adidas one was ftid i think but the refund was issued once scanned at couriers i think and it was a year ago.
The guy who done them has like 12000 in a group, I know you don't know the ins and outs but is it likely companies like Sunglass Hut would rebill for EB refunds after like 6 months? Or even next for a parcel that's went missing via hermes/evri. (Assuming your UK and know what they are lol)
RE: New user here but worried! - mothered - 11-05-2022
(11-05-2022, 10:43 AM)Jimjhn Wrote: Adidas one was ftid i thinkI thought as much.
Stick to traditional methods that work - which Is all of them.
(11-05-2022, 10:43 AM)Jimjhn Wrote: I know you don't know the ins and outs but is it likely companies like Sunglass Hut would rebill for EB refunds after like 6 months?Only If there's Inconsistencies at the time of the claim, and further down the track.
If you've covered every angle when formulating your method, there'd be no reason to rebill a claim that was finalized many months prior.
(11-05-2022, 10:43 AM)Jimjhn Wrote: Or even next for a parcel that's went missing via hermes/evri. (Assuming your UK and know what they are lol)I have sound knowledge of almost every company and carrier service, globally.
RE: New user here but worried! - stevenadams2323 - 11-05-2022
(11-05-2022, 11:28 AM)mothered Wrote:(11-05-2022, 10:43 AM)Jimjhn Wrote: Adidas one was ftid i thinkI thought as much.
Stick to traditional methods that work - which Is all of them.
(11-05-2022, 10:43 AM)Jimjhn Wrote: I know you don't know the ins and outs but is it likely companies like Sunglass Hut would rebill for EB refunds after like 6 months?Only If there's Inconsistencies at the time of the claim, and further down the track.
If you've covered every angle when formulating your method, there'd be no reason to rebill a claim that was finalized many months prior.
(11-05-2022, 10:43 AM)Jimjhn Wrote: Or even next for a parcel that's went missing via hermes/evri. (Assuming your UK and know what they are lol)I have sound knowledge of almost every company and carrier service, globally.
yet another instance where the ftid is flawed. cant believe people do it
RE: New user here but worried! - Jimjhn - 11-05-2022
Not 100 percent sure it was ftid, might have been LIT. The guy that done mine does loads of refunds for people but I'm now just a bit worried but if the company is convinced at the time of refund there not going to look into it anymore or anything will they?
RE: New user here but worried! - BetterThings2 - 11-05-2022
(11-05-2022, 06:41 PM)Jimjhn Wrote: Not 100 percent sure it was ftid, might have been LIT. The guy that done mine does loads of refunds for people but I'm now just a bit worried but if the company is convinced at the time of refund there not going to look into it anymore or anything will they?Like @mothered stated, stick to traditional methods, they have a very good hit rate with proper planning. Also if those orders you mentioned were ftid's/LIT, then it is possible for them to rebill you, but it's not a 100% chance they will. If they do try and rebill you, just play dumb and stick to your guns. Hope this eases your mind a little.
RE: New user here but worried! - mothered - 11-06-2022
(11-05-2022, 05:52 PM)stevenadams2323 Wrote: yet another instance where the ftid is flawed. cant believe people do itUnfortunately for them, they'll learn the hard way.
(11-05-2022, 06:41 PM)Jimjhn Wrote: Not 100 percent sure it was ftid, might have been LIT.They're both label manipulation, hence the LIT Is a variant of the so-called FTID.