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Hypothetic question - sealed box method - theoldstonewall - 09-22-2022

Hello, folks. I have learned a lot from mothered and especially like the sealed box method.

I have a MacBook from Amazon. A refunder was meant to do it but never responded. I saw the idea of the sealed method but then I thought, what if I Contact Amazon and I claim I have indeed received a dummy MacBook myself i.e someone else has scammed them and I have ended up with the fake product? I assume they might want me to return it but I can push for a real lack of professionalism and request a refund.

Would this work? If not, then where can I find a dummy MacBook? Or should I just use a similar weight?

Also, I'm curious why do most people here despise FTID and mothered himself brushes it off as another stupid method based on his comments on a thread I read.


RE: Hypothetic question - sealed box method - plop442 - 09-22-2022

(09-22-2022, 04:53 AM)theoldstonewall Wrote: Hello, folks. I have learned a lot from mothered and especially like the sealed box method.

I have a MacBook from Amazon. A refunder was meant to do it but never responded. I saw the idea of the sealed method but then I thought, what if I Contact Amazon and I claim I have indeed received a dummy MacBook myself i.e someone else has scammed them and I have ended up with the fake product? I assume they might want me to return it but I can push for a real lack of professionalism and request a refund.

Would this work? If not, then where can I find a dummy MacBook? Or should I just use a similar weight?

Also, I'm curious why do most people here despise FTID and mothered himself brushes it off as another stupid method based on his comments on a thread I read.

I can answer your last question. It's because the FTID method in of itself is not good, but rather the people who handle your claim are stupid. They see the tracking which shows as delivered, and hopefully will refund you. However, someone else with half a brain might start an investigation inside the warehouse, and if is found that the package isn't at the warehouse, they'll start an investigation with the courier, who can then provide the GPS coordinates of where the package was delivered. This has happened to me recently. However, I recently FTID'd 4 companies that sell fragrances for about £800 each and none did an investigation and just refunded me as soon I sent them my proof of postage receipt. One company I FTID'd failed because they did an investigation with the courier and found that the wrong address was entered at the post office. This, however, was my fault because I changed something on the address that shouldn't have been changed, so it showed up on the receipt. Ultimately, the success rate depends on the employees checking your claim. Just hope to god they're dumb and just see the tracking info and refund you without opening up investigations.


RE: Hypothetic question - sealed box method - Ordnael92 - 09-22-2022

(09-22-2022, 04:53 AM)theoldstonewall Wrote: I have a MacBook from Amazon. A refunder was meant to do it but never responded. I saw the idea of the sealed method but then I thought, what if I Contact Amazon and I claim I have indeed received a dummy MacBook myself i.e someone else has scammed them and I have ended up with the fake product? I assume they might want me to return it but I can push for a real lack of professionalism and request a refund.

Would this work? If not, then where can I find a dummy MacBook? Or should I just use a similar weight?
And I'll answer your first question.
No, it most probably wouldn't work. In Amazon's mind, there's no way a brand-new, factory-sealed MacBook box could contain a dummy product.
Were you to buy an Amazon Warehouse used MacBook, it would be no different: they thoroughly inspect every returned item before putting them up for sale again.