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WHAT LINKS AMAZON ACCOUNTS ? - thebuffer - 06-03-2022
Hello !
Recently I got one of my amazon accounts banned after doing 2 DNA refs (with around 3 months space inbetween the refunds and a few normal orders inbetween) I claimed the dna and on both circumstances i was asked to send a Police report which i did and so i successfully got the refunds !
Recently one more of my amazon accounts got banned after making an order (literally 10 minutes after placing order), keep in mind this account had no refunds done and i was just making a cheap order to start making the account look legit and then it got banned straight away for the reason "Your account has been closed for sharing similar information to some other account which is closed" (something along those lines)
MY QUESTION IS - what links these accounts and what should i differentiate when starting a new account so that when one somehow gets banned - they wont ban the others as well ?
What is it that amazon looks at when banning accounts for sharing the same info as others banned ?
Is it the VCC ? - im asking this as i've started using revolut which allows you to make infinite VCC so i made one for each amazon account so it looks more legit
Is it the delivery address ? - i usually deliver them to a locker so that should be fine
Is it the billing info ? - like should I fake the name and address and phone number on the billing info so its different ? My concern with this is that usually the amazon account gets temporarily locked when the billing info is not matching with the actual VCC, so then I usually have to get a b@nk statement and photoshop it so it links exactly with the information that i put in the billing info in the order.
Is it the IP of the accounts ? -
What i personally think is that the CC is what they look at and thats what they ban along with the amazon account of course. I am saying this as i attempted using the same CC that i used on the first account which got banned (the one where i mentioned i did 2 dnas) and thats when the second account got banned too.
I am just trying to find that one factor which they look at when they want to ban other accounts and i strictly believe it cant be all the factors i mentioned above because then it would almost become impossible for me to do refunds anymore and now all my accounts should have been banned, hence i reduced it to the factor being the CC that was used on the account.
I am looking forward to hearing your opinions
What do you guys think ?
RE: WHAT LINKS AMAZON ACCOUNTS ? - isaacnnn - 06-03-2022
I agree I think it was instantly flagged as you used an identical payment method to the account which was closed.
Try to keep all your details different too, even your billing address yeah.
If you want to easily use a different IP, use your phone hotspot, it should spit you out a different IP address every time.
I have a full page of info on how to remain anonymous on new Amazon accounts that I can pm to you.
EDIT: Will just post the info here (not my information):
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Use your phone hotspot for a Fresh, Residential, Unique IP address (sometimes you get assigned a dodgy IP address as mobile networks' IPs are recycled, keep that in mind); Airplane mode for 5 sec for a new IP. You may also use a service such as |PBurger. Non-dedicated commercial
VPNs will not work. Use Windows/Android/Mac. Ubuntu/Linux/VMWare gets blacklisted straight away. If whatleaks.com is all green you're good to go.
Clear browser cookies (all time)
Register on Amazon using any name and a fresh email address (googlemail / . / + alias trick does not work!)
It'll ask you to verify using your email BUT it shouldn't ask you to verify reCaptcha, it shouldn't ask you to verify your phone number
[UPDATE 19/01/21] it may ask you for your phone number if there's another Amazon account registered using the same IP, as long as the account wasn't banned you're good to go] and it shouldn't come up with an Internal error; if it does any of above - your IP address is compromised and you need to go back to step 1.
Internal error may also mean your e-mail address is either associated with a banned/flagged account or very similar to that of a banned/flagged account.
Browse Amazon for 5 minutes, read a few reviews - get those cookies.
Get a new debit/credit card or VCC (Monzo, Revoluton, Privacy com etc). You want a clean card that's never been used on Amazon before.
Change the billing address with your bank to something in your IPs area, anything really just don't go too far. Note: Typos may not work if CIS looked into your account and banned all typos/aliases of your address but there are workarounds.
First purchase must be small or your account will be put on hold. I recommend you log back in after a few hours, get some more cookies and wait~24h before placing the big order. Prior purchases are not mandatory but increase your chance of success.
RE: WHAT LINKS AMAZON ACCOUNTS ? - Andrea Bags - 06-03-2022
no one knows for sure but card information is a big one
RE: WHAT LINKS AMAZON ACCOUNTS ? - mothered - 06-04-2022
Quote:WHAT LINKS AMAZON ACCOUNTS ?In short and stating the obvious, any matching details, Inclusive of the same device used for all accounts.
RE: WHAT LINKS AMAZON ACCOUNTS ? - thebuffer - 06-04-2022
Could you pm me more information about this if you have any ? Like, do you recommend using a phone when logging in the accounts and give up on using a computer ?
What i know from other people is that the more legit orders an account has before hitting a big order which you will refund then the better ? Right ?
I always aim for 3-4 orders of 10£ each lets say. I am guessing that makes it safer.
Then regarding the billing information, can i add a totally random address nearby or should it be a different typo of my address ?
RE: WHAT LINKS AMAZON ACCOUNTS ? - Nabeshin - 06-04-2022
If you used the same CC (same number and all that) on both accounts, it was OBVIOUSLY that
Otherwise, using the same device would be a very plausible second option
RE: WHAT LINKS AMAZON ACCOUNTS ? - wxckeddz - 06-04-2022
(06-03-2022, 07:36 PM)isaacnnn Wrote: I agree I think it was instantly flagged as you used an identical payment method to the account which was closed.
Try to keep all your details different too, even your billing address yeah.
If you want to easily use a different IP, use your phone hotspot, it should spit you out a different IP address every time.
I have a full page of info on how to remain anonymous on new Amazon accounts that I can pm to you.
EDIT: Will just post the info here (not my information):
---------------------------------------------------
Use your phone hotspot for a Fresh, Residential, Unique IP address (sometimes you get assigned a dodgy IP address as mobile networks' IPs are recycled, keep that in mind); Airplane mode for 5 sec for a new IP. You may also use a service such as |PBurger. Non-dedicated commercial
VPNs will not work. Use Windows/Android/Mac. Ubuntu/Linux/VMWare gets blacklisted straight away. If whatleaks.com is all green you're good to go.
Clear browser cookies (all time)
Register on Amazon using any name and a fresh email address (googlemail / . / + alias trick does not work!)
It'll ask you to verify using your email BUT it shouldn't ask you to verify reCaptcha, it shouldn't ask you to verify your phone number
[UPDATE 19/01/21] it may ask you for your phone number if there's another Amazon account registered using the same IP, as long as the account wasn't banned you're good to go] and it shouldn't come up with an Internal error; if it does any of above - your IP address is compromised and you need to go back to step 1.
Internal error may also mean your e-mail address is either associated with a banned/flagged account or very similar to that of a banned/flagged account.
Browse Amazon for 5 minutes, read a few reviews - get those cookies.
Get a new debit/CC or VCC (Monzo, Revoluton, Privacy com etc). You want a clean that's never been used on Amazon before.
Change the billing address with your to something in your IPs area, anything really just don't go too far. Note: Typos may not work if CIS looked into your account and banned all typos/aliases of your address but there are workarounds.
First purchase must be small or your account will be put on hold. I recommend you log back in after a few hours, get some more cookies and wait~24h before placing the big order. Prior purchases are not mandatory but increase your chance of success.
could u pm the full page of info on how to remain anon? im trying to order food on GH and i think they blacklisted me.
RE: WHAT LINKS AMAZON ACCOUNTS ? - mothered - 06-05-2022
(06-04-2022, 09:27 PM)wxckeddz Wrote: im trying to order food on GH and i think they blacklisted me.What was their reply stating you're blacklisted?
RE: WHAT LINKS AMAZON ACCOUNTS ? - isaacnnn - 06-05-2022
(06-04-2022, 02:40 PM)thebuffer Wrote: Could you pm me more information about this if you have anyI edited my before post but maybe you can't see it for some reason. This is the info I have. (Not my info).
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Use your phone hotspot for a Fresh, Residential, Unique IP address (sometimes you get assigned a dodgy IP address as mobile networks' IPs are recycled, keep that in mind); Airplane mode for 5 sec for a new IP. You may also use a service such as |PBurger. Non-dedicated commercial
VPNs will not work. Use Windows/Android/Mac. Ubuntu/Linux/VMWare gets blacklisted straight away. If whatleaks.com is all green you're good to go.
Clear browser cookies (all time)
Register on Amazon using any name and a fresh email address (googlemail / . / + alias trick does not work!)
It'll ask you to verify using your email BUT it shouldn't ask you to verify reCaptcha, it shouldn't ask you to verify your phone number
[UPDATE 19/01/21] it may ask you for your phone number if there's another Amazon account registered using the same IP, as long as the account wasn't banned you're good to go] and it shouldn't come up with an Internal error; if it does any of above - your IP address is compromised and you need to go back to step 1.
Internal error may also mean your e-mail address is either associated with a banned/flagged account or very similar to that of a banned/flagged account.
Browse Amazon for 5 minutes, read a few reviews - get those cookies.
Get a new debit/credit card or VCC (Monzo, Revoluton, Privacy com etc). You want a clean card that's never been used on Amazon before.
Change the billing address with your bank to something in your IPs area, anything really just don't go too far. Note: Typos may not work if CIS looked into your account and banned all typos/aliases of your address but there are workarounds.
First purchase must be small or your account will be put on hold. I recommend you log back in after a few hours, get some more cookies and wait~24h before placing the big order. Prior purchases are not mandatory but increase your chance of success.
RE: WHAT LINKS AMAZON ACCOUNTS ? - Usbflasher - 06-05-2022
There are sooooooooo many more reasons why OFM is banning you. Isaacnnn already listed some but there are a lot more since the rework of OFM.
- Your device fingerprint. Dont even try to spoof it, because it wont work. Amazon is doing calculations in the background based on your real hardware. How to avoid it? New device every 2-3 refunds (get cheap phones for 100€).
- Your mouse movement, typing speed, scrolling speed and so on. Amazon tracks a ton of this shit and will link you just by analyizing it and using KI. All big anti fraud providers are using it for their clients too. How to avoid it? Type slower, get a different mouse, etc.
- Your own personality. Amazon is one of the biggest data provider of the world. They track everything and they can collect data from several websites (nearly all big sites are using amazons cloud service). How to avoid? Act like a new customer. Never use TAB when you create an account or copy and paste. Do it slowly like you never saw the page before. When you are registered check their site slowly too. Where can I search products? How can I order? Which payment options do they offer? If you go and just click though everything like a retard they will OFM you too. They will know that this isnt your first account.
This are 3 of the most important reasons. Dont forget this + the things that isaacnnn said.