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Clean Amz account from 2010 ; what can I expect ? - betalactame - 12-04-2021
Hello,
I'm new into SE, I've never "scammed" Amazon or any companies and I'd like to try it. So I've got a clean Amazon account from 2010, started buying there since 2015 for a grand total of 620 EUR approximately. Since my account is pretty old and I've been a "good" customer (only made a legit refund once for a 20 EUR article), what risks can I take ? On a french forum someone said that I could go all-in for a 1000 EUR refund. Should I follow his advice ? Or should I make "small" refunds from time to time while buying legit stuff on a regular basis ? I feel like having a clean account this old is pretty rare and precious, and I'd like to know how to "exploit" it the best way possible.
Thanks in advance !
Bonus question : I'd like to buy a camera lens ~180 EUR value with a lens filter of 35EUR, I'd like to have the refund for the lens but would legit pay the filter. What would be the best method ? The camera lens is 125g so just above the limit for a EB if I read right, and I wouldn't like to "ruin" my clean account for "only" 180 EUR.
RE: Clean Amz account from 2010 ; what can I expect ? - mothered - 12-04-2021
Your account Is In very good standing, so SEing a single Item of the said value, will not raise suspicion If the SE Is performed correctly.
Quote:The camera lens is 125g so just above the limit for a EBIt's pushing the missing Item method to Its limit, but should still be fine.
Alternatively, If an OTP Is not required on delivery, you can DNA It.
RE: Clean Amz account from 2010 ; what can I expect ? - betalactame - 12-04-2021
(12-04-2021, 03:10 AM)mothered Wrote: Your account Is In very good standing, so SEing a single Item of the said value, will not raise suspicion If the SE Is performed correctly.
Quote:The camera lens is 125g so just above the limit for a EBIt's pushing the missing Item method to Its limit, but should still be fine.
Alternatively, If an OTP Is not required on delivery, you can DNA It.
Okay thanks. Slightly off topic but on what frequency can I try to get refunds for items < 100 EUR ? I mean for years I almost haven't made a single return, and then all of a sudden I'm going to make some on a regular basis ? Aren't they going to find it suspicious ? Hence why I'm wondering about it
RE: Clean Amz account from 2010 ; what can I expect ? - db8803 - 12-04-2021
For an 11-12 year old account missing item should not be a problem regardless the weight. Even if it's 1-2kg you can still do missing item - tested many times worked 100% (on clean, old accounts)
RE: Clean Amz account from 2010 ; what can I expect ? - mothered - 12-04-2021
(12-04-2021, 03:04 PM)betalactame Wrote: Slightly off topic but on what frequency can I try to get refunds for items < 100 EUR ? I mean for years I almost haven't made a single return, and then all of a sudden I'm going to make some on a regular basis ? Aren't they going to find it suspicious ? Hence why I'm wondering about itWhat's your Interpretation of "regular basis?".
RE: Clean Amz account from 2010 ; what can I expect ? - betalactame - 12-04-2021
(12-04-2021, 03:14 PM)db8803 Wrote: For an 11-12 year old account missing item should not be a problem regardless the weight. Even if it's 1-2kg you can still do missing item - tested many times worked 100% (on clean, old accounts)
Thanks for your insight !
(12-04-2021, 04:12 PM)mothered Wrote:(12-04-2021, 03:04 PM)betalactame Wrote: Slightly off topic but on what frequency can I try to get refunds for items < 100 EUR ? I mean for years I almost haven't made a single return, and then all of a sudden I'm going to make some on a regular basis ? Aren't they going to find it suspicious ? Hence why I'm wondering about itWhat's your Interpretation of "regular basis?".
This is what I'm asking haha, what do you think is possible ? In my mind on a regular basis would be like one time every month, but on average I'm buying stuff on Amz every two months or something like that, so it's bothering me a little bit.
But this is not answering my initial question : what would be the highest reasonable money limit for my first refund ? It's common sense that if I have to be flagged anyway, I'd prefer to be flagged for a 500 EUR item than a 180 one.
RE: Clean Amz account from 2010 ; what can I expect ? - mothered - 12-05-2021
(12-04-2021, 04:43 PM)betalactame Wrote: In my mind on a regular basis would be like one time every month, but on average I'm buying stuff on Amz every two months or something like that, so it's bothering me a little bit.In terms of SEing and generally speaking, every 4-6 weeks with legit purchases In between.
(12-04-2021, 04:43 PM)betalactame Wrote: what would be the highest reasonable money limit for my first refund ?Anything under 900$.
Do remember that every company believes an SE Is a legit claim. Treat It as such by manipulating It accordingly, and It will significantly minimize suspicion being raised.
RE: Clean Amz account from 2010 ; what can I expect ? - betalactame - 12-05-2021
(12-05-2021, 01:35 AM)mothered Wrote: Anything under 900$.
Do remember that every company believes an SE Is a legit claim. Treat It as such by manipulating It accordingly, and It will significantly minimize suspicion being raised.
Okay thanks, but for such an amount of money, would a police report be necessary if I go for DNA ?
RE: Clean Amz account from 2010 ; what can I expect ? - mothered - 12-05-2021
(12-05-2021, 01:47 PM)betalactame Wrote: but for such an amount of money, would a police report be necessary if I go for DNA ?The DNA tends to trigger both an Investigation and a PR a lot more often than not, so be prepared for It.
Keep In mind that both of the events above, are only used to move forward with the claim, hence there's no cause for concern.