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Issues with making new accounts - Dp110096 - 08-24-2021

I’ve been trying to make some new accounts on sites like amazon, Walmart, etc… and they all get banned the moment I place an order. All these companies have really stepped up their game with identifying alt-accounts. I use a vpn, new MAC address, vcc, and all different personal details. Absolutely nothing is the same as previous accounts. I get banned right after I make a purchase, so it seems that the issue is either the vcc or the vpn being in a different location than the shipping address. I’m not sure of any way to get around these problems.


RE: Issues with making new accounts - Roadman - 08-24-2021

Different passwords is key and try a low amount order first to see if it goes through.

Also it's easy to verify the accounts. For Wal-Mart you need to ring them and say you've just moved in why is my order cancelled?

For Amazon send them your legitimate bank statement.


RE: Issues with making new accounts - mothered - 08-24-2021

Quote:I use a vpn, new MAC address, vcc, and all different personal details.
Did you also use a totally new device with each account created?

Quote:I get banned right after I make a purchase
Did Amazon provide a reason for the ban? Or was It the good old message of: "We've closed this account because our records show that we closed another account of yours due to not meeting our terms & conditions".


RE: Issues with making new accounts - botts - 08-25-2021

(08-24-2021, 08:34 AM)Roadman Wrote: Different passwords is key

I've never heard anyone mention that passwords could be something companies use to find alt accounts.
Surely that's a breach of personal information?


RE: Issues with making new accounts - mothered - 08-25-2021

(08-25-2021, 05:08 PM)botts Wrote: I've never heard anyone mention that passwords could be something companies use to find alt accounts.
Surely that's a breach of personal information?
They don't personally view passwords, but rather use automated scanning software which Identifies multi-accounting based on matching credentials.

For example, If the password comes up as a match, It will be flagged and displayed as such without revealing the password Itself.


RE: Issues with making new accounts - botts - 08-25-2021

(08-25-2021, 05:28 PM)mothered Wrote:
(08-25-2021, 05:08 PM)botts Wrote: I've never heard anyone mention that passwords could be something companies use to find alt accounts.
Surely that's a breach of personal information?
They don't personally view passwords, but rather use automated scanning software which Identifies multi-accounting based on matching credentials.

For example, If the password comes up as a match, It will be flagged and displayed as such without revealing the password Itself.

I still consider that a breach of personal info, couldn't that be abused to test someone else's password, by seeing if your account is taken down?


RE: Issues with making new accounts - mothered - 08-26-2021

(08-25-2021, 06:47 PM)botts Wrote: I still consider that a breach of personal info, couldn't that be abused to test someone else's password, by seeing if your account is taken down?
They're not breaching personal Info (viewing/releasing private Information), nor are they testing passwords In any way, shape, or form.

It's simply used to detect multi-accounting based on a matched algorithm, without affecting or Invading the privacy of account holders.


RE: Issues with making new accounts - Roadman - 08-26-2021

All I'm saying is this.

Whenever I used to use the same passwords my accounts would get banned.

Ever since I used new passwords each time the banning has dropped substantially.

The companies don't know your password themselves as it's encrypted. However the system and servers can definitely make a match if 2 accounts are made with the same password using the same ip address/device.

Back on topic, have you tried using a new password and has it worked in your account not being banned?