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Amazon ban wave? - cascaprise - 08-12-2021

Hi
I'm new to SEing and asked for advise on another forum about using WIR or leaking battery method for some 100/200€ item.

They told me it's a bad idea because there's an Amazon ban wave and they're more likely going to ban me. At this point I asked if doing a couple of legit orders during a 1/2 weeks timeframe would lower the risk of getting banned and they said that I will get banned anyway.

Is that true? Is Amazon currently in a ban wave?

I was thinking of SEing something else off some clothing website because of what they told me but I feel like they were either lying or didn't know what they were talking about.

Thanks in advance Biggrin

RE: Amazon ban wave? - mothered - 08-12-2021

Quote:They told me it's a bad idea because there's an Amazon ban wave and they're more likely going to ban me
Amazon are still well and truly SE'able, so I don't know why they're stating account closures.

Quote: I asked if doing a couple of legit orders during a 1/2 weeks timeframe would lower the risk of getting banned and they said that I will get banned anyway.
What was their reason to justify the ban?

RE: Amazon ban wave? - cascaprise - 08-12-2021

(08-12-2021, 12:03 PM)mothered Wrote:
Quote: I asked if doing a couple of legit orders during a 1/2 weeks timeframe would lower the risk of getting banned and they said that I will get banned anyway.
What was their reason to justify the ban?

They didn't give me a reason, after I told them I was going to make a couple of legit orders they said they doubt it would work anyway because Amazon is on a ban wave. Since they didn't give me any reasons I asked on this forum. Anyway thanks for answering.

RE: Amazon ban wave? - mothered - 08-12-2021

(08-12-2021, 12:13 PM)cascaprise Wrote: They didn't give me a reason
Not good enough.

They can't conclusively state that accounts will be closed, without providing evidence to support their claim. What If the wrong Item received method Is based on legit grounds, whereby you did In fact receive the Incorrect Item? Amazon will ban the account? Absolutely not.

RE: Amazon ban wave? - botts - 08-13-2021

(08-12-2021, 10:32 AM)cascaprise Wrote: Hi
I'm new to SEing and asked for advise on another forum about using WIR or leaking battery method for some 100/200€ item.

They told me it's a bad idea because there's an Amazon ban wave and they're more likely going to ban me. At this point I asked if doing a couple of legit orders during a 1/2 weeks timeframe would lower the risk of getting banned and they said that I will get banned anyway.

Is that true? Is Amazon currently in a ban wave?

I was thinking of SEing something else off some clothing website because of what they told me but I feel like they were either lying or didn't know what they were talking about.

Thanks in advance Biggrin

Let's use a bit of perspective here.
A quick google search claims that amazon ships an estimated 2.5 Billion packages every year.
Let's say the ban wave lasted a month, that's still 208,333,333 packages a month.
Now let's just assume that a meagre 0.01% of users have a damaged item and make a claim. That's 1 in ten thousand, so I'd imagine it's actually higher.
Assuming Amazon bans those orders because of the "Ban Wave", that would be 20,833 innocent customers, banned.

I highly doubt they are going to risk their reputation to this many customers.

Also, may I add- they are ignorant if they think having an aged account won't decrease the risk of being struck by "The Mighty Ban Wave". Do you think they are going to ban someone who has spent let's say $2000 a year over the last 6 years? Over a €200 item?

I have seen the "Ban Wave" personally. At least 10 people I have been in contact with have had their accounts banned. But it's far more dynamic of a process than an insta-ban. If you plan and execute your SE smoothly, you're just another innocent customer to amazon.

RE: Amazon ban wave? - mothered - 08-13-2021

(08-13-2021, 12:16 AM)botts Wrote: If you plan and execute your SE smoothly, you're just another innocent customer to amazon.
Namely when you treat It as a legit claim by manipulating It accordingly without raising suspicion.

RE: Amazon ban wave? - Oni - 08-13-2021

Reminds me of this:
https://sinister.li/Thread-Amazon-can-now-sue-refund-scammers-DONT-SE-AMAZON-ANYMORE

I don't think anything has materialized out of these sorts of rumors.

RE: Amazon ban wave? - mothered - 08-13-2021

(08-13-2021, 10:26 AM)Oni Wrote: Reminds me of this:
https://sinister.li/Thread-Amazon-can-now-sue-refund-scammers-DONT-SE-AMAZON-ANYMORE

I don't think anything has materialized out of these sorts of rumors.
Absolutely not.

It's been business as usual for SE'ers.