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How do you get put on the refunding game? - Pangolinmorsels - 04-05-2021
Hey everybody,
It’s abundantly clear that there is an “inner circle” of refunding knowledge that basically all refunders are using as guidelines for what stores they offer as refundable, as well as the item/price limits for those stores (for instance, currently wall-mart & Wayfair are instant refunds).
From what I can tell, when one well known refunder offers something new or changes limits or restrictions on a particular store, almost immediately every other refunder in the game changes their services to reflect this new offer.
I understand the process of using any of the extremely detailed methods that one can find here in order to pull off an se for theirselves, but where are these vendors pulling from ,seemingly, the same source of knowledge as each other? How does one gain access to that inner circle?
I’d really like to know anyone else’s thoughts on the subject. I’d love a roadmap to the entrance!
RE: How do you get put on the refunding game? - mothered - 04-05-2021
Moved from the Group Discussion forum to Social Engineering.
Quote:where are these vendors pulling from ,seemingly, the same source of knowledge as each other?
Quote:when one well known refunder offers something new or changes limits or restrictions on a particular store, almost immediately every other refunder in the game changes their services to reflect this new offer.You've basically answered your own question.
As per above, given you're able to Identify changes In their services, so too can other refunders.
RE: How do you get put on the refunding game? - Pangolinmorsels - 04-05-2021
(04-05-2021, 08:59 AM)mothered Wrote: You've basically answered your own question.
As per above, given you're able to Identify changes In their services, so too can other refunders.
Yes, you’re correct. I should have clarified my question a bit it seems.
While one refunder publicly changing a stores limits (or similar) could easily be copycatted by anyone else offering that service is an obvious and easily explainable scenario, it fails to explain things like the following: A few weeks ago, most vendors I know of that offered Walmart advertised that the store was refundable but would take an average of 2-3 weeks. Then, all of a sudden, each of those same refunders all updated their Walmart advertisements to show INSTANT refunds, as long as all items are sold and shipped by Walmart.
Yes, anyone who sees this update could then modify their own advertisements to reflect it, but without access to some new exploit, or “insider knowledge” on how to make a refund process INSTANTLY, they could only offer the standard 2-3 week refund timeframe.
RE: How do you get put on the refunding game? - Pangolinmorsels - 04-09-2021
Can anyone provide any input on this question? I’ve contributed to research the possibilities and have seen many people mentioning that Wayfair and Walmart are being instant refunded through a script that exploits their ticketing system.
Even if this is the case, it only confirms my suspicions that there is a collective knowledge source that all these refunders are pulling from.
Any thoughts?
RE: How do you get put on the refunding game? - xVita - 04-09-2021
(04-09-2021, 12:27 AM)Pangolinmorsels Wrote: Can anyone provide any input on this question? I’ve contributed to research the possibilities and have seen many people mentioning that Wayfair and Walmart are being instant refunded through a script that exploits their ticketing system.
Even if this is the case, it only confirms my suspicions that there is a collective knowledge source that all these refunders are pulling from.
Any thoughts?
Noticed excatly the same thing... Hope anyone knows something more
RE: How do you get put on the refunding game? - mothered - 04-09-2021
(04-05-2021, 09:20 AM)Pangolinmorsels Wrote: that there is a collective knowledge source that all these refunders are pulling from.I doubt there's a central point of reference available to all refunders.
The moment an exploit Is discovered, It's usually kept within the confines of one's own environment.
(04-05-2021, 09:20 AM)Pangolinmorsels Wrote: A few weeks ago, most vendors I know of that offered Walmart advertised that the store was refundable but would take an average of 2-3 weeks. Then, all of a sudden, each of those same refunders all updated their Walmart advertisements to show INSTANT refundsThe moment the Instant refund comes to hand, It may well be that other refunders offer a commission In exchange for Information, hence the Immediate update In their policy.
RE: How do you get put on the refunding game? - Pangolinmorsels - 04-09-2021
(04-09-2021, 10:52 AM)mothered Wrote: I doubt there's a central point of reference available to all refunders.
The moment an exploit Is discovered, It's usually kept within the confines of one's own environment.
To be completely honest, I doubt there is either. I also agree with your opinion on the probability of ones dissemination of any new exploits as well.
Holding these two opinions, however, does nothing to change my mind about the probability of access to information or those with information, being held close to the vest by a smaller group of people.
In fact, when you say this:
(04-09-2021, 10:52 AM)mothered Wrote: The moment the Instant refund comes to hand, It may well be that other refunders offer a commission In exchange for Information, hence the Immediate update In their policy.
I not only agree with you on the probability that this is happening, it’s one of the main influences of my opinion that a smaller group of individuals have access to a closely shared bit of information.
If it’s just a group of people that all know that a certain guy is legit when he drops a new service like instant refunds, so much so that they have presumably been in contact with him to discuss commission percentages so that they may advertise his service as their own... Well that would be evidence of access to knowledge kept and shared between refunders and away from the anyone not in the know. Just the fact that they know to contact him.
Following Occam’s Razor still leads me to this conclusion.
RE: How do you get put on the refunding game? - poolboy - 04-12-2021
(04-09-2021, 11:29 AM)Pangolinmorsels Wrote:(04-09-2021, 10:52 AM)mothered Wrote: I doubt there's a central point of reference available to all refunders.
The moment an exploit Is discovered, It's usually kept within the confines of one's own environment.
To be completely honest, I doubt there is either. I also agree with your opinion on the probability of ones dissemination of any new exploits as well.
Holding these two opinions, however, does nothing to change my mind about the probability of access to information or those with information, being held close to the vest by a smaller group of people.
In fact, when you say this:
(04-09-2021, 10:52 AM)mothered Wrote: The moment the Instant refund comes to hand, It may well be that other refunders offer a commission In exchange for Information, hence the Immediate update In their policy.
I not only agree with you on the probability that this is happening, it’s one of the main influences of my opinion that a smaller group of individuals have access to a closely shared bit of information.
If it’s just a group of people that all know that a certain guy is legit when he drops a new service like instant refunds, so much so that they have presumably been in contact with him to discuss commission percentages so that they may advertise his service as their own... Well that would be evidence of access to knowledge kept and shared between refunders and away from the anyone not in the know. Just the fact that they know to contact him.
Following Occam’s Razor still leads me to this conclusion.
I set a lot of my limits based off of what others limits are or what they have accomplished with little interruption.
Also say someone has a Amz refund service listed and they have $500>instant $500< 2-3 weeks
then ill take into account that they are probably doing a simple as fuck method for everything under 500 like dna, so then ill just make that my limit.
RE: How do you get put on the refunding game? - GOATEDGOD6969 - 07-08-2022
Is this real?
I thought all those people selling refunds were just scammers trying to get account info and crypto.
I just found this website searching for a receipt generator because I needed to return a broken lamp i bought but I couldn't find the receipt and I needed cash. For some reason a million spam websites with top 10 lists all list this very website as a receipt generator.
https://etechshout.com/best-fake-walmart-receipt-generator/#3_Sinisterly
https://pvplive.net/top-10-latest-stockx-receipt-generators-for-2022/#1_Sinisterly
I would have never discovered any of this if it was not for the spam sites lol.
RE: How do you get put on the refunding game? - Auris - 07-08-2022
(07-08-2022, 05:14 AM)GOATEDGOD6969 Wrote: Is this real?This is very real.
I thought all those people selling refunds were just scammers trying to get account info and crypto.
I just found this website searching for a receipt generator because I needed to return a broken lamp i bought but I couldn't find the receipt and I needed cash. For some reason a million spam websites with top 10 lists all list this very website as a receipt generator.
https://etechshout.com/best-fake-walmart-receipt-generator/#3_Sinisterly
https://pvplive.net/top-10-latest-stockx-receipt-generators-for-2022/#1_Sinisterly
I would have never discovered any of this if it was not for the spam sites lol.