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FTID Method - Target - scoobyeo - 06-19-2020 Hey Guys recently I've joined a lot of refund groups to try to scope out how pros are doing refunds, Ive seen a trend in most groups that target is the easiest and quickest to refund with no investigations and a very high limit some say can go as high as 25k. Ive come to the conclusion that at-least 90% of them must be using some sort of the FTID method for them. All the vouches post a screenshot of the target refund and it claims that they have received the product back at the warehouse and issue the refund and from what I've heard there has not been any fails. Im wondering if anyone has any knowledge or input on this. Is option 2 or 3 the best method? I understand others don't want the method leaked and I get why so it doesn't get raped and they catch on very fast. I'll be sure to not specify. RE: FTID Method - Target - mothered - 06-19-2020 Quote:they have received the product back at the warehouse and issue the refundAre you suggesting they're using the FTID method, by returning an "Item" and receiving a refund thereafter? RE: FTID Method - Target - scoobyeo - 06-19-2020 (06-19-2020, 04:18 PM)mothered Wrote:Quote:they have received the product back at the warehouse and issue the refundAre you suggesting they're using the FTID method, by returning an "Item" and receiving a refund thereafter? Yes, Thats what im thinking. because it can't be DNA or DNA in box because the refund email says the items have gotten back to them and they are issuing a refund. So that's my only conclusion are they are using the FTID method and target does not investigate or keep track of what gets returned. Ive seen you post around and have worries about this new method and I definitely do too. So I wanted your opinion. Have you heard of anyone trying this method with target? RE: FTID Method - Target - mothered - 06-19-2020 (06-19-2020, 04:24 PM)scoobyeo Wrote: Yes, Thats what im thinking. because it can't be DNA or DNA in box because the refund email says the items have gotten back to them and they are issuing a refund. So that's my only conclusion are they are using the FTID methodThen what's the point of using the FTID method If the "Item Is returned?". The FTID Involves manipulating the shipment, hence (as the "Bob" character puts It) "Fake Tracking ID". RE: FTID Method - Target - scoobyeo - 06-19-2020 (06-19-2020, 04:30 PM)mothered Wrote:(06-19-2020, 04:24 PM)scoobyeo Wrote: Yes, Thats what im thinking. because it can't be DNA or DNA in box because the refund email says the items have gotten back to them and they are issuing a refund. So that's my only conclusion are they are using the FTID methodThen what's the point of using the FTID method If the "Item Is returned?". I guess that's my question, are they using option 2 or 3. 2 was where they just put the tracking with removed details on the "Item" and they just don't notice and assume it was delivered, or are they using option 3 where they are changing the shipping address to it never is received but they think it was delivered? RE: FTID Method - Target - mothered - 06-19-2020 (06-19-2020, 04:45 PM)scoobyeo Wrote: I guess that's my question, are they using option 2 or 3. 2 was where they just put the tracking with removed details on the "Item" and they just don't notice and assume it was delivered, or are they using option 3 where they are changing the shipping address to it never is received but they think it was delivered?If that's the case, then the following Is totally misleading and Irrelevant. Quote:they have received the product back at the warehouse One particular FTID method that has the best chance of a successful outcome, Is to show the tracking number as delivered (carrier-wise), but the company has no record of the package- physically and In their administrative/office department. RE: FTID Method - Target - scoobyeo - 06-19-2020 (06-19-2020, 05:06 PM)mothered Wrote:(06-19-2020, 04:45 PM)scoobyeo Wrote: I guess that's my question, are they using option 2 or 3. 2 was where they just put the tracking with removed details on the "Item" and they just don't notice and assume it was delivered, or are they using option 3 where they are changing the shipping address to it never is received but they think it was delivered?If that's the case, then the following Is totally misleading and Irrelevant. That would be option 2 displayed in the Ebook which is what im referring to. option 3 is the same thing but you just change shipping address so its not delivered to their office so there is absolutely no trace, but I have seen some people on the forum running into trouble so im thinking option 2 (The method you described above) is the best bet? I think there's a lot of confusion because in the ebook that has been leaked he calls the method you just described FTID option 2. Even though its technically not FTID so that's why im referring that method as FTID RE: FTID Method - Target - Filament - 06-19-2020 (06-19-2020, 05:33 PM)scoobyeo Wrote:(06-19-2020, 05:06 PM)mothered Wrote:(06-19-2020, 04:45 PM)scoobyeo Wrote: I guess that's my question, are they using option 2 or 3. 2 was where they just put the tracking with removed details on the "Item" and they just don't notice and assume it was delivered, or are they using option 3 where they are changing the shipping address to it never is received but they think it was delivered?If that's the case, then the following Is totally misleading and Irrelevant. Not sure about Target, but as a point of reference, modifying shipping address is very high risk. If they open an investigation it'll fail right away. Also, if it does get delivered properly, it'll raise suspicion. RE: FTID Method - Target - scoobyeo - 06-19-2020 (06-19-2020, 06:26 PM)Filament Wrote:(06-19-2020, 05:33 PM)scoobyeo Wrote:(06-19-2020, 05:06 PM)mothered Wrote: If that's the case, then the following Is totally misleading and Irrelevant. What if you do the normal method without modifying it to look as junk still high risk? If so what method do you think pro refunders use for target or best method in your opinion? RE: FTID Method - Target - Filament - 06-19-2020 (06-19-2020, 06:51 PM)scoobyeo Wrote:Lower risk. The more it looks like junk mail, the less risk there is. Sending an empty bubble mailer is fairly suspicious and I would deem as medium-high risk.(06-19-2020, 06:26 PM)Filament Wrote:(06-19-2020, 05:33 PM)scoobyeo Wrote: That would be option 2 displayed in the Ebook which is what im referring to. option 3 is the same thing but you just change shipping address so its not delivered to their office so there is absolutely no trace, but I have seen some people on the forum running into trouble so im thinking option 2 (The method you described above) is the best bet? I think there's a lot of confusion because in the ebook that has been leaked he calls the method you just described FTID option 2. Even though its technically not FTID so that's why im referring that method as FTID I know most "pro refunders" just use the most common methods, maybe with a small twist. They just have more experience and know what to say to manipulate the rep. |