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Brexit: Progress - Jiggly - 02-01-2020
Brexit - We've all heard about this headache for many years now. After many political debates and media attention, the UK finally officially left the EU at 23:00 GMT on January 31st.
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What does this mean?
While the UK has officially left the EU, there will still be an 11 month transition period, while the UK aims for new free trade arrangements between the UK and EU. During this period, travel and immigration will continue to operate as normal, and UK citizens will be treated like EU citizens while going through airports. This also means freedom of movement will continue to apply during the transition. Living and working in the EU will continue as normal as well. Scottish leaders are still campaigning for another referendum, but are being denied at this moment in time.
In short: No real changes are occurring at this moment in time, with exception to political departments and MEPs either disbanding or re-purposing.
What are your thoughts on events?
RE: Brexit: Progress - zhclgmfz - 02-02-2020
finally uk leftthe eu.good job xD
RE: Brexit: Progress - Oni - 02-02-2020
If it's going to happen, it's best that it happens swiftly and decisively. When negotiating, sluggishness or indecisiveness isn't desirable.
RE: Brexit: Progress - Parliament - 02-02-2020
Scotland should receive another referendum.
RE: Brexit: Progress - mothered - 02-02-2020
(02-02-2020, 03:18 AM)Oni Wrote: When negotiating, sluggishness or indecisiveness isn't desirable.
It demonstrates hesitation, which can have a significant negative Impact on handling the matter successfully.
RE: Brexit: Progress - Jiggly - 02-02-2020
(02-02-2020, 06:55 AM)mothered Wrote:(02-02-2020, 03:18 AM)Oni Wrote: When negotiating, sluggishness or indecisiveness isn't desirable.
It demonstrates hesitation, which can have a significant negative Impact on handling the matter successfully.
I would argue this is very true. Especially given the issues with the brexit process up until this point. I think that had a fair impact on the last general election too. Many voted because they wanted someone in charge who would get this over with.
(02-02-2020, 05:49 AM)Parliament Wrote: Scotland should receive another referendum.
I have no qualms with Scotland going for another referendum, but now is not the right time. Wait until the brexit stuff is over, until we see what the new free trade agreement is.
RE: Brexit: Progress - mothered - 02-02-2020
(02-02-2020, 09:18 AM)Jiggly Wrote:(02-02-2020, 06:55 AM)mothered Wrote:(02-02-2020, 03:18 AM)Oni Wrote: When negotiating, sluggishness or indecisiveness isn't desirable.
It demonstrates hesitation, which can have a significant negative Impact on handling the matter successfully.
I would argue this is very true. Especially given the issues with the brexit process up until this point. I think that had a fair impact on the last general election too. Many voted because they wanted someone in charge who would get this over with.
Quote:Many voted because they wanted someone in charge who would get this over with.I couldn't agree more.
I for one, prefer someone who's In control and handling himself/herself with a great degree of confidence. I'm sure many people share the same opinion.
RE: Brexit: Progress - Leonidas76 - 02-02-2020
RIght now, I'm curious to see what the free trade agreement will entail. The EU seems to be fixed on their 4 freedoms, while the UK would like to have acces to free flow of goods and capital. The challenge that both parties face now is finding a solution to their opposite interests. I think we will either end up with the UK accepting the 4 freedoms, and having no input through the European parliament regarding policy. Or the EU will give in and accept that the UK will be allowed to restrict immigration and services, which will probably cause a whole lot of different logistical problems.
Brexit: Progress - OrangeDisco - 02-02-2020
I can't see the Phase 2 PD/FTA resulting in a win win for either side, it's more to do with damage limitation.
The EU had the advantage dealing with May, the EU are at a disadvantage dealing with Johnson as he's got far more Brussels/EU experience & knowledge behind him.
Boris has a massive majority, a fully supporting chancellor & CBI & other trade bodies from both sides have had plenty of warning so zero excuses for preparedness.
RE: Brexit: Progress - Parliament - 02-02-2020
(02-02-2020, 09:18 AM)Jiggly Wrote:Scotland doesn't want to leave the EU. Boris Johnson's entire argument is "no, you guys had one back in 2014 and chose no" but that was before Brexit and A LOT of things have changed, nobody knew how bad Brexit actually would be. He knows that if Scotland get's another referendum, it'll choose to leave. The 2014 referendum was extremely close. He's trying to block Scotland's freedom in a democracy.(02-02-2020, 06:55 AM)mothered Wrote:(02-02-2020, 03:18 AM)Oni Wrote: When negotiating, sluggishness or indecisiveness isn't desirable.
It demonstrates hesitation, which can have a significant negative Impact on handling the matter successfully.
I would argue this is very true. Especially given the issues with the brexit process up until this point. I think that had a fair impact on the last general election too. Many voted because they wanted someone in charge who would get this over with.
(02-02-2020, 05:49 AM)Parliament Wrote: Scotland should receive another referendum.
I have no qualms with Scotland going for another referendum, but now is not the right time. Wait until the brexit stuff is over, until we see what the new free trade agreement is.
To say "right now is not the right time" is to say what every English MP has been saying for a long ass time. We don't care about Brexit, we want to leave the UK and join the EU again.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-scotland-eu-independent-donald-tusk-dominic-raab-indyref2-a9313336.html
https://twitter.com/NicolaSturgeon/status/1223380744833261570
I didn't even want Scotland to leave the UK till B.J got back in. I believe (to some extent) that England is sinking and it's going to bring down Scotland with it. I love the UK but if Scotland has to leave it to remain a great country, I don't mind.