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RE: Looking to SE Amazon.it, OTP is required, what are my options? - Nabeshin - 02-05-2022

(02-05-2022, 03:51 PM)mothered Wrote:
(02-05-2022, 03:36 PM)Nabeshin Wrote: I literally just sent them an email before reading your post stating I want proof that the package was delivered to ME, not left to anyone else who was not authorized to receive the parcel on my behalf, or even stolen by the courier itself
Plus I offered them my own translation, if needed, or to move the issue to my local amazon CS so at least communications will be easier
Thanks, let's see how it goes
Good move.

Be sure to always remain adamant that "you did not personally receive the package", therefore their GPS/tracking details cannot confirm person-to-person delivery. As you've mentioned and adding to It, the driver himself could've stopped by for a few minutes (just to update the tracking Information at the address), and then drove off with the package In hand.

I'm not suggesting to put the driver at fault, but rather stating that the possibility of such an event Is well and truly realistic.

They just replied with the same carbon copy email stating my police report cannot be validated, ignoring every other question I asked
Should i request to escalate to someone who'll listen?


RE: Looking to SE Amazon.it, OTP is required, what are my options? - mothered - 02-06-2022

(02-05-2022, 04:29 PM)Nabeshin Wrote: They just replied with the same carbon copy email stating my police report cannot be validated, ignoring every other question I asked
Very poor customer service, that should not be tolerated.

(02-05-2022, 04:29 PM)Nabeshin Wrote: Should i request to escalate to someone who'll listen?
Precisely what I had In mind.

Immediately request your claim be escalated to a senior level.


RE: Looking to SE Amazon.it, OTP is required, what are my options? - Nabeshin - 02-07-2022

Mailed them on saturday evening, no response, sent them another email yesterday, still nothing

I'm getting kinda pissed here, I wonder if I should start over by contacting them over chat and ask for an escalation right away instead of going through the same email over and over


RE: Looking to SE Amazon.it, OTP is required, what are my options? - mothered - 02-07-2022

(02-07-2022, 09:23 AM)Nabeshin Wrote: Mailed them on saturday evening, no response, sent them another email yesterday, still nothing

I'm getting kinda pissed here
^ That's their tactic - to purposely Ignore you to the point of frustration, In hope that you'll give up and stop contacting them.

Don't fall for It, keep on going.

(02-07-2022, 09:23 AM)Nabeshin Wrote: I wonder if I should start over by contacting them over chat and ask for an escalation right away instead of going through the same email over and over
Use whatever gateway will allow you to have the claim escalated.


RE: Looking to SE Amazon.it, OTP is required, what are my options? - frss - 02-12-2022

(02-05-2022, 03:32 PM)mothered Wrote:
(02-05-2022, 09:30 AM)Nabeshin Wrote: I will tell them I can translate the report for then
Either that, or they can do It themselves.

It's a pretty simple process.

(02-05-2022, 09:30 AM)Nabeshin Wrote: I will also starting acting pissed off by asking for a copy of the signature again
If need be, keep repeating yourself until they provide a proof of signature.

(02-05-2022, 09:30 AM)Nabeshin Wrote: and proof that the package was actually delivered because so far they have none
Their email below, Is their proof of delivery which Is useless.

(02-05-2022, 09:30 AM)Nabeshin Wrote: in a previous email they said
Quote:we have considered information from our records, as follows which indicate the item as delivered:

- the timed geocode stamp of the delivery location;
- information collected at the point of delivery; and
- the package weight and reported condition upon delivery.

That's a typical automated message trying to justify the delivery on GPS/tracking Information, which by no means concludes that "you personally received the package".

(02-05-2022, 09:30 AM)Nabeshin Wrote: None of this proves anything since there's no photo or signature or anything, right?
As stated above.

you think i should peb or dna new amazon account


RE: Looking to SE Amazon.it, OTP is required, what are my options? - mothered - 02-12-2022

(02-12-2022, 03:07 AM)frss Wrote: you think i should peb or dna new amazon account
You've asked me the same question here.


RE: Looking to SE Amazon.it, OTP is required, what are my options? - Nabeshin - 02-12-2022

Finally got my refund after arguing a bit, since they kept repeating themselves over and over ("police report isn't complete", "we only want it in English" and so on), had to threaten them with a police report against them and a chargeback in case they didn't comply ASAP and we're finally done

Off to the next SE we go! (at a later time of course)


RE: Looking to SE Amazon.it, OTP is required, what are my options? - mothered - 02-12-2022

(02-12-2022, 07:25 AM)Nabeshin Wrote: Finally got my refund after arguing a bit, since they kept repeating themselves over and over ("police report isn't complete", "we only want it in English" and so on), had to threaten them with a police report against them and a chargeback in case they didn't comply ASAP and we're finally done
Well done with not taking "no" for an answer throughout the entire claim.

Perseverance was the contributing factor for Its success.


RE: Looking to SE Amazon.it, OTP is required, what are my options? - Nabeshin - 02-18-2022

(02-12-2022, 09:53 AM)mothered Wrote:
(02-12-2022, 07:25 AM)Nabeshin Wrote: Finally got my refund after arguing a bit, since they kept repeating themselves over and over ("police report isn't complete", "we only want it in English" and so on), had to threaten them with a police report against them and a chargeback in case they didn't comply ASAP and we're finally done
Well done with not taking "no" for an answer throughout the entire claim.

Perseverance was the contributing factor for Its success.

How safe would it be to use the Amazon's purchase invoice to register this GPU on the manufacturer's website for an extended warranty?
The invoice doesn't mention the refund, nor does the Amazon order page, as it's still giving me an option to return it since 30 days didn't pass, but maybe they could actually contact Amazon somehow to verify the order and I could get in trouble for that?

Unless someone's selling purchase receipts, I'm at a loss here.. or I could try editing some data on the invoice so that it can't be traced to me, and see if they accept that without a double check?

Edit: or, maybe, using receiptmansion.com could work? Is there a store among the free ones that doesn't get checked for sure?


RE: Looking to SE Amazon.it, OTP is required, what are my options? - mothered - 02-19-2022

(02-18-2022, 04:56 PM)Nabeshin Wrote: How safe would it be to use the Amazon's purchase invoice to register this GPU on the manufacturer's website for an extended warranty?
The invoice doesn't mention the refund, nor does the Amazon order page
What the Invoice and order page contains, Is not a representation of the details stored Internally by Amazon.

The accounts department will have It recorded as a refunded Item.

(02-18-2022, 04:56 PM)Nabeshin Wrote: as it's still giving me an option to return it since 30 days didn't pass, but maybe they could actually contact Amazon somehow to verify the order and I could get in trouble for that?
There's every chance the Invoice will be cross-checked for warranty purposes.

(02-18-2022, 04:56 PM)Nabeshin Wrote: Edit: or, maybe, using receiptmansion.com could work?
As stated above.

(02-18-2022, 04:56 PM)Nabeshin Wrote: Is there a store among the free ones that doesn't get checked for sure?
Impossible to say for sure.