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RE: Apple Instant Method? - ArjunRony - 01-06-2023
Yeah But every refunder right now asks for payment as soon as you get refund email. DNA for apple asks for PR even for small items.
RE: Apple Instant Method? - mothered - 01-06-2023
(01-06-2023, 01:02 PM)ArjunRony Wrote: DNA for apple asks for PR even for small items.The DNA In general, triggers a PR a lot more often than not.
RE: Apple Instant Method? - ffeffffefff - 01-25-2023
(12-11-2022, 03:15 AM)mothered Wrote:(12-11-2022, 02:47 AM)shookons Wrote: in which case would that be risky for the client? Besides like obvious cases mentionned aboveWhen using a refunder, every case Is a risk to the client - their credentials are used, while the refunder sits back anonymously awaiting the outcome.
You also don't know what their security practices are like. Many of them use Google docs for their store lists and submission forms, which suggest poor operational security.
Your plausible deniability goes out the window when using a refunder.
RE: Apple Instant Method? - yeen - 01-25-2023
(01-25-2023, 09:44 PM)ffeffffefff Wrote: You also don't know what their security practices are like. Many of them use Google docs for their store lists, etc. which suggest poor operational security.When I first saw a refunding service, looked at their store list and literally said out loud „theyre doing this shit over google docs!?”
That is such horrible OPSEC, and a lot of known refunders are doing it too!
RE: Apple Instant Method? - ffeffffefff - 01-25-2023
(01-25-2023, 10:13 PM)yeen Wrote:(01-25-2023, 09:44 PM)ffeffffefff Wrote: You also don't know what their security practices are like. Many of them use Google docs for their store lists, etc. which suggest poor operational security.When I first saw a refunding service, looked at their store list and literally said out loud „theyre doing this shit over google docs!?”
That is such horrible OPSEC, and a lot of known refunders are doing it too!
I had the same thought. Also the use of insecure platforms like Telegram or Discord that require a phone number is a huge red flag.
RE: Apple Instant Method? - mothered - 01-26-2023
(01-25-2023, 09:44 PM)ffeffffefff Wrote: You also don't know what their security practices are like. Many of them use Google docs for their store lists and submission forms, which suggest poor operational security.Agreed, which Is why you need to do your homework on the refunder, and also take significant precautionary measures when considering a refunding service.
RE: Apple Instant Method? - Vendel - 02-16-2023
(12-10-2022, 06:54 AM)Endeavor Wrote: Looks to be "Lost in Transit" method, probably an insider method with a carrier.I can't open the link
https://ibb.co/r55ZJGn - This is one of the refunders I have worked with in the past, and I usually trust him. Ordered on Dec 7, and was refunded same day.
@mothered thoughts? I have heard of UPS insiders going around. Seems to be that to me.
how can i get an insider?
RE: Apple Instant Method? - Ecto95 - 02-16-2023
(01-26-2023, 02:03 AM)mothered Wrote:(01-25-2023, 09:44 PM)ffeffffefff Wrote: You also don't know what their security practices are like. Many of them use Google docs for their store lists and submission forms, which suggest poor operational security.Agreed, which Is why you need to do your homework on the refunder, and also take significant precautionary measures when considering a refunding service.
I am new to the SE scene, but I can already tell that these "refunders" use just shitty methods (most of them)
RE: Apple Instant Method? - mothered - 02-17-2023
(02-16-2023, 05:28 PM)Ecto95 Wrote: I am new to the SE scene, but I can already tell that these "refunders" use just shitty methods (most of them)Correct, "most of them", but not all - which Is why I've said to do homework on the refunder.
RE: Apple Instant Method? - yeen - 02-17-2023
Literally every refunder I've seen has been using Telegram and Google Docs/Website